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Sorcery & Games

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Repent-or-Burn, Oct 7, 2010.

  1. dwmoeller1

    dwmoeller1 New Member

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    What do you mean by "correct" one? There are many different definitions, all of them "correct" in one sense or another. And how will you be able to determine if the game fits what you determine is the "correct" definition.
     
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  2. matt wade

    matt wade Well-Known Member

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    How is blasphemy just a game? You aren't making any sense.

    Pornography is defined as:

    I don't care if you use cartoon characters or real live human beings, as I stated porn is porn...there is no "fake porn".
     
  3. matt wade

    matt wade Well-Known Member

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    You have more problems you need to worry about than this game. You were "in the IFB"? You realize that the I stands for independent, right? You know that means you weren't "in" anything other than a single local chuch, right?
     
  4. Repent-or-Burn

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    Relevance, or importance?
    How is it a bigger problem than playing the game, as to how I define being "in" the IFB?
     
  5. Repent-or-Burn

    Repent-or-Burn New Member

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    Blasphemy.. in a game...............
     
  6. annsni

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    I see him saying that he was in that mindset that the IFBs have of some very strong legalism and he's now beginning to figure out what he has heard is right or not. No more "NO. Period" but he's figuring out "No - and here is why" or if even the "no" was the right answer.
     
  7. matt wade

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    No...he's already made an opinion on it. He said:

    He has labeled everyone at an IFB church a pharisee.
     
  8. matt wade

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    Blasphemy is blasphemy...there's no getting around that whether it is in a game, movie, or anything else. If you blaspheme God in a game, your are guilty of blasphemy.

    When you are playing a game and cast a spell at an bad guy, are you really being a sorcerer? Are you calling upon evil powers to help you click the button to cast the spell? If so, then you need to quit the game. If not, then you need to realize it is a game and you aren't really casting spells or calling upon evil forces.
     
  9. matt wade

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    You brought it up....so you tell me the relevance or importance?

    The point I was making is that if you believe everyone in an IFB church is a pharisee, then you need to stop worrying about whether to play a game or not and examine your heart.
     
  10. Repent-or-Burn

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    :BangHead::BangHead::BangHead::BangHead:

    Clearly I meant as a whole, not "every" single member. You're taking my words out of common usage. Such as if I say it's "that was as easy as cake," what do I really mean?
    And I do not know every single person in the IFB, so how could I say that? Come on...
     
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    Yes, and that was his experience. So what of it?
     
  12. matt wade

    matt wade Well-Known Member

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    The IFB movement as a whole are not pharisees either. When you make statements like that you slander an entire group of people, without cause to do so.
     
  13. Repent-or-Burn

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    I don't know what your goal is, Matt.. but I'm not going to 'play this game' with you any further. TBH I think you're trolling.


    So, anyone else have info to add? :)
     
  14. matt wade

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    Would you like me to slander an entire group of people that you are a part of? What if I said baptist churches that remove baptist from their name are pharisees. Would you enjoy that?
     
  15. Repent-or-Burn

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    It's tough at times. I doubt things that I know I shouldn't doubt.... Logically I know that I know they're wrong, yet my conscience makes me wonder.

    I've even doubted if I should do something, while at the same time doubting if I shouldn't! :) Not to say it's all their fault, but they had a strong influence in this regard.

    Like with the King James Bible... Many in the IFB say it's perfect, inspire, preserved, etc. and we shouldn't translate from the originals or the kjv, to a new language. We should make other people learn our language. I know in all logical reason and even in scripture, that this is wrong, but yet I may doubt if we should translate, in my conscience.. But the bigger part of my conscience says we should translate - and from the greek/hebrew, NOT from english.

    Or whether I should 'ever' marry.. or whether I should pursue a girl I was interested in at one point.. Doubts, doubts. :)
     
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  16. matt wade

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    I've been addressing your original post from the beginning. You are the one that went off topic to slander IFB churches, not me, and yet I'm the troll? Interesting...

    If you'd like to talk about it, then by all means respond to my posts about the original topic. I've clearly explained in post #28 why i don't feel that it is sorcery to play a game.
     
  17. annsni

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    I would just disagree. That's all.
     
  18. annsni

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    Brother, my counsel to you would be this:

    * Rest in Jesus Christ and His blood. There is redemption at the cross - not condemnation.

    * Spend a lot of time in prayer asking the Spirit to help you figure out what's truth. Interestingly enough, I just watched a video from Mark Driscoll where he addresses praying to the Spirit. Know that if you ask for wisdom and peace, He WILL give it to you.

    * Begin to study God's Word on these topics. it's OK to look at outside sources but go to the Source first. See what Scripture truly says.

    * See if you can find a godly man who has a strong walk with the Lord who can maybe disciple you through this time of storm.

    I will be praying for you brother. It's so hard when the foundation that we built our lives on is not as strong as we once thought and we need to begin to replace it with the truth. But God will bring you through this.
     
  19. annsni

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    Oh - one other thing. Right now, don't go by your conscience. Because of things you have been taught, it might have been hardened by some things and softened to others - or you have decided what was hardened is going to be ripped out right now. Again, stick with the Word and the Spirit.
     
  20. Repent-or-Burn

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    "or you have decided what was hardened is going to be ripped out right now."

    what?
     
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