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SORRY for the post: Obama's People Call for Bush to Quit EARLY???

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by righteousdude2, Nov 29, 2008.

  1. righteousdude2

    righteousdude2 Well-Known Member
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    I do apologize to those whom I angered with my post on the calls for Bush to resign now and let Pelosi take over so Obama could begin implementing his plans.

    I did use the word "staff" and that was an error that I wish I could have taken back, so please forgive me.

    As for the title being misleading, I didn't think it was, because this voices were from some of Obama's most vocal media supporters [which in every sense of the word, are his "people" since they openly used their media cred to get Obama elected] did call for Bush to quit. Media hawks like: Keith Olbermann, Gail Collins, Thomas Friedman, and Paul Abrams are but a few of those floating the notion that Bush and Cheney should step down for the good of this Nation.

    As for not putting in a source, I just assumed the story was larger than it apparently was, and we all know that a serious writer should never, ever assume.

    I am also apologizing to those I angered with that post. However, I would hope that those who called for me to man up, would man up and apologize to me for "trashing my post and character."

    Selah!

    Pastor Paul:type:
     
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    I had it figured for a mistake, not intentional, so I hope those members who were so mean-spirited towards you will take this opportunity to apologize. That would be the Christian thing to do, IMO. :wavey:
     
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    as did I..............
     
  4. LeBuick

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    I can't speak for everyone but I was far from angered. I would have been more upset if Obama was calling for Bush resignation. Not at you, at him.

    Reading te article shows how much this county is divided. We go from one article saying he's getting record amounts of death threats to that one calling for him to take office early. The division in this country is reminiscent to the 60's.
     
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    Thank you righteousnesdude2 for admitting your mistake. All too often people do things that they fail to account for. It takes character for you to not only admit this mistake but to ask forgiveness. Since I was the one who pointed this out, I forgive you and believe it was an honest mistake on your part.
     
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    The thought of anger never entered my mind. It was just apparent to me that the Constitution would never allow such. If my post contributed to the atmosphere, I am sorry Paul.
     
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    I know I said I was amused...... but I didn't mean it in a demeaning way. I'm sorry if it seemed so. I was amused at the article, and once I read it, your post had greater meaning in which I got a sense of both your sense of humor and optimism in spite of the seriousness and concern.

    [off the specifics of this topic..... but pertaining to the 'atmosphere of the BB board in general of which some of these post have become symptomatic]
    I can be wrong, but I think I perceive that many of our good members are embattled in someway: under various stressors and without intentionally being of mean attitude, are finding ourselves overly sensitive, impatient and ungracious.

    Righteousdude2, I can never recall where you've been unkind or ungracious to any poster, and certainly not deserving of a personal attack. Noone has to agree all the time with opinions posted, but there are ways of voicing different pov without personal attacks..... and if we followed your example, we couldn't go far wrong.

    God bless ...... and peace!
    WC :)
     
  8. EdSutton

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    Regardless of one's personal view of Sen. Barak Obama, he did say that we only had one President at a time, and that is President George W. Bush.

    And I heard this with my own two eyeballs, FTR. :D

    Incidentally, don't worry! Sen. Barak Obama will, in all probability, get his own chance to basically attempt to do a makeover of the country into one of his own image, just as every President has in the last 48 years, with the sole exception of the best President our country has had in that time, the late President Gerald R. Ford.

    I rate him as the best, for one simple reason - IMO, he merely functioned as the chief executive and Commander-in-Chief. That is far more in accordance with the provisions of the US Constitution, than has any other functioned, since at least Jan. 20, 1961.

    There is not one single provision anywhere in that great document known as the Constitution, that the President should be any sort of 'great visionary' or do anything more, in the area of 'public policy' (a phrase foreign to the Constitution) than to be the Commander-in-Chief; give information and suggest in "the State of the Union" address, what matters he judges necessary and expedient to the Congress; and see that the laws of the United States are faithfully executed. (Art. II)

    I think that is a good plan, personally - let the Congress do its job; and the job of the President does not include any attempting to continually sway the Congress to his (or her, should that happen to become the case) way of thinking!

    Ed
     
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    Yours is hardly the first misleading title to be posted here and I suspect it won't be the last.

    I don't remember the other offenders apologizing, but maybe they did. One of the very worst offenders never apologizes. You are the better person.

    That being said, A source article would have been nice, but even when an article is posted, I assume the author is posting their opinion of that article.

    I agree with you that Obamanites, including those in the media, could reasonably be called "his people". I have no doubt that many of them are stupid enough, and hate Bush enough, to put this type of proposal forward.

    God bless you in your willingness to acknowledge a mistake.
     
  10. saturneptune

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    What causes such language here is debating on a surface mentality. There are basically two groups that hold the majority of posters in this thread. One, called Republican apologists, have the idea, that no matter the issue, no matter whether the party or person is liberal or conservative, the Republican Party is correct, because it is Republican. Now, for the second group, substitute the name Democrat where Republican is above.

    If people would dip below the surface, exchange true conservative, liberal ideas, and point out the difference between right and wrong, things would be much more civil. When one defends a rotten to the core organization over another, this is the kind of discourse that results.

    The most outrageous example I have seen above is the often said quote "I cannot pray for Obama." Also entering into the mess is a lack of understanding of the Constitution, government, and relying on news sources for information.
     
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    Well I never read the post. But I want to say that are certain people here I have come to respect. And one of the TOP ones for me is righteousdude2 (aka Pastor Paul)
     
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    Wow, you call RD the better person for apologizing then call Obamaites stupid all in the same post. That's really incredible... :thumbs:
     
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    Very good post, I believe if we'd drop party affiliation and ideology we'd find that the solution is neither republican or democrat, it is something both sides need to come together to resolve. I like your truth that each side is ultimately evil trying to say the other party is more evil. I strongly believe God is neither Dem or Rep.

    Then there is the interpretation of the constitution which is just as vast as the interpretations of scripture. The only difference I see is the constitution was made to be amended which makes the intent of its original authors kind of moot in the end. The Bible is not a democracy where as our form of Government, at least when we take it to other countries, IS.
     
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    In Sincere Appreciation

    I want to thank all of you who have commented. It was a great Kum By Ya {sp?}moment, and this board could use many more of these kind of moments.

    I appreciate all the kind words, and the apologies, and want you all to know that the respondents to this post are truly those who made a stand for the Lord. It is far much better to admit ones mistakes, than to sweep them under the carpet, and go on living like a person that is too good to admit they could have been wrong.

    I started to see the need to admit my faults when the Lord confronted me about my sinful life. For that reason and only that reason, I "exposed" myself, and made my life transparent to all who read Prodigal Daze. I have discovered that if we don't reveal our true selves, over time, God will expose us, and I am grateful He allowed me to make my sins public on my terms, and not through some other brother or sister that could have made me look like a lot of those preachers who lived two separate lives.

    Pray for me, and I'll pray for you, and together we will live and walk the words found in I John 1:5-10.

    Pastor Paul:type:
     
  15. EdSutton

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    What da' heck is "Prodigal Daze"? :confused:

    (No cracks are necessary or needed from any in da' 'Peanut Gallery' about my being confused, BTW!) :D

    Ed
     
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    One of the 2 Books I wrote

    You can check out the books in the Books / Publications Forum; See the Post: Two Positive Reviews on Books by BB Author. That should help you with what Prodigal Daze is. sorry for making that so confusing for you.:thumbs:
     
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    Thank you.
     
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    I certainly wish I could live up to your standards of thinking of liberal Democrats as "stupid" (your quote), and at the same time praise, and vote for liberal Republicans.

    Its called the sidestep.

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    Bush should quit. There is to much time between the election and the new administration which is mostly used for stealing public funds.
     
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    Sure, that there's a super plan. :rolleyes:

    Nothing like screwing up the most orderly transfer of power in the free world.
     
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