Southern Baptist Hypocrisy - Invest in the Sins of the World

The bible says that while you were a sinner God loved you enough to die for you. To love someone even though they sin is godly. If God did not love the sinner we'd all be destined to hell with no hope in eternity.
There are people who love you, even though you still sin, God still loves you even though you still sin.

 

How far would you go in investigating the companies they might have investments in or people who invest in them might have.

 

It was my understanding that a third party company - Travel Agency had arranged for the Gay Cruise.

 

As far as is necessary to be a good steward. We are all accountable to God, for what we do with what we have been given by His hand. It's a sad day when Christians compromise for the almighty buck.

 

I have Wal-Mart stock---and they sell beer?? What do I do??

I have ExxonMobile stock---and their C-Stores sell Cigarettes, beer, and condoms---what do I do??

I don't buy the cigarettes, beer, or condoms---thats what I do!

Whats the SBC to do---not invest in that Asphalt company just because that asphalt was paid for out of "Sin" taxes for highway use??

 

Well, blackbird, then should they invest in a porn company - pornography seems to be doing well these days. Are there any limits?

 

Equally, do you investigate the businesses whose products you buy to make sure they are not supporting homosexuality, or abortion? It would be good stewartship too. You are investing in them too when you purchase their products. You may be investing in that porn when you buy your dish liquid or that brand of jeans you like.

 

It seems some are going off the deep end here. What the OP is about is the SBC annuity fund, in other words, a retirement fund which I am supposing most of the SBC pastors contribute to.

So, we're talking about a retirement fund in an organization which has actively taken a stand against Disney on the one hand, but is now justifying their seemingly reversal of position when it comes to how they have been stewards of the retirement fund.

Some look at this as hypocrisy.

I don't have a dog in this hunt, it's not MY retirement fund we're talking about. I, like everyone else on this board, and like the people who are investors in this fund (401K), etc., and those who manage this fund, WILL stand before the Lord one day and we will ALL be accountable to Him.

I do not KNOWINGLY support the gay cause either directly or indirectly.

If the Annuity Board of the SBC did not know, that is different. But the fact is, they DO know. (The meat has not only been offered to idols and they know it, they're making money off of it, to paraphrase.)

I did send them an email. I would think SBC pastors would send an email, but like I said, it is not MY retirement fund. I only posted on this thread because I have recently joined an SBC church. Otherwise, I'd keep my nose and opinions out of it.

Guess it's stuff like this why IFBs and GARBCs end up not having a cooperative retirement fund, when you have no control over how your money is invested. There's something to be said for autonomy.

Here is their official statement on the subject:

https://www.absbc.org/main/page.asp?f=press&s=2004&c=05_18

 

No and yes.

 

Better yet should we refuse to drive on that asphalt?

If we keep going I do believe we're going to find out who's qualified to throw the first stone.

 

And we will soon learn what was meant when the Spirt warned us that those staying faithful to Christ would soon not be able to either buy or sell.

The End is truly near.

 

I think that for all those that are advocating profiting from the things that the church preaches against, that this verse of scripture might be a good one to think about.

Proverbs 16:2 "We can always 'prove' that we are right, but is the Lord convinced?"

 

It seems some are going off the deep end here. What the OP is about is the SBC annuity fund, in other words, a retirement fund which I am supposing most of the SBC pastors contribute to.

So, we're talking about a retirement fund in an organization which has actively taken a stand against Disney on the one hand, but is now justifying their seemingly reversal of position when it comes to how they have been stewards of the retirement fund.

Some look at this as hypocrisy.

I don't have a dog in this hunt, it's not MY retirement fund we're talking about. I, like everyone else on this board, and like the people who are investors in this fund (401K), etc., and those who manage this fund, WILL stand before the Lord one day and we will ALL be accountable to Him.

I do not KNOWINGLY support the gay cause either directly or indirectly.

If the Annuity Board of the SBC did not know, that is different. But the fact is, they DO know. (The meat has not only been offered to idols and they know it, they're making money off of it, to paraphrase.)

I did send them an email. I would think SBC pastors would send an email, but like I said, it is not MY retirement fund. I only posted on this thread because I have recently joined an SBC church. Otherwise, I'd keep my nose and opinions out of it.

Guess it's stuff like this why IFBs and GARBCs end up not having a cooperative retirement fund, when you have no control over how your money is invested. There's something to be said for autonomy.

Here is their official statement on the subject:

https://www.absbc.org/main/page.asp?f=press&s=2004&c=05_18 </font>[/QUOTE]So when it concerns you personally then the answer is obviously 'no'.

 

What's with the personal attack? You're off topic, Donna.

 

It seems that the O S Hawkins explained this line of investing at one of the conventions a few years back---

 

No personal attack. You did not answer, I can only conclude from your answer.
Not off topic, it is about using money, when you make purshases you are investing your money in whatever the company recieving it want to do with it.

 

Oh, but I did answer: Here it is again:

You can conclude whatever you want to conclude about my finances which is NOT the topic being discussed here. The topic is NOT about individuals using money, it is specifically about how the SBC uses other people's money, money they have been entrusted with.

There is a difference but apparently you can't see that. If you want to start a topic about how individuals spend their own money, feel free to start one.