Sovereignty???

Well that's pretty low and not true. It wasn't translated by just Calvinists. It wasn't written to support Calvinism. The NWT was written by JW's for their own purpose, but not the ESV. This is totally uncalled for.

 

then all modern versions are "calvinist" versions then? But you said it was written by calvinist now are you saying that the NA27 was the calvinist part?

 

The LCMS Lutheran Synod has made the ESV it's official text. They're certainly not Calvinists.

 

you keep backpedaling any more you might fall down. You said the ESV was a calvinistic translation written by Calvinists and now you are off to Catholicism which has nothing to do with Reformed theology. Why don't you just apologize for you false statement.

 

Can I assume that you prefer the KJV?

 

I’ve got my UBS4 (very close to the NA 27) in front of me—I’m reading the intro & I’m having a hard time finding where it clearly says it is taken from a “discredited text”! I know such a notion was never discussed in Greek class---but maybe I’m missing something---exactly what page of the intro are you referring to?
And would you recommend the KJV over the ESV for Greek accuracy?

 

I'd be interested to know how, according to you, "Catholics invented Calvinism".

 

Gentlemen, some ignorance is not with the effort to refute.

 

Hello Dr. Lamb. I have never been seated under you but do follow some of your teaching. Just so you know, I'm the Grumpy Old Mens Teacher at Silver Spring Baptist in Magnolia, TX. May God always bless your efforts in His name.

 

That’s cool I don’t have the NA 27 (only the UBS4)—but your obviously interested in studying Greek & I’m always curious to see what other Greek students think about the accuracy of modern translations. Every other student of the language I’ve personally talked with either endorses the NASB or the ESV—but I’m always open to hear other ideas on this issue—I’m really more open to discussion about this issue then a lot of other biblically related topics (meaning I’m not going to call you names if we disagree-lol)—so is there a preferred modern version in your understanding?
PS—I’m not the biggest Westcott & Hort fan-so I understand having problems with them!

 

The ESV is in the essentially literal catagory. It is way more literal than the NIV but not as clunky as the NASB.

 

Thanks... I asked above after your rather crude remarks about other translations. I figured as much.

I'm indeed wondering, however, how you can so readily support a version of the Bible given us by King James, who persecuted the early Baptists TO DEATH, and who wrote into rule of law in England and Scotland, the fact that all citizens had to be under his rule in the Church of England?

Seems that King James ACTUALLY did the evils so often ascribed to John Calvin (but that he never actually did).