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Spanking

Discussion in 'Other Discussions' started by Salty, Sep 24, 2011.

  1. Salty

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    Good, Bad, indifferent?
    What are your thoughts about spanking
    For what rules,
    boys, girls, both
    age
    should only mom spank daughter
    other thoughts?
     
  2. Scarlett O.

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    While the Bible does not say, "spare the rod and spoil the child", it does speak of correcting and disciplining children. That's includes spanking.

    Spanking should never be the first resort, unless it's a repeat offense or a serious offense or an offense that warrants a spanking. Many times, especially with young children, just look or a word to "stop" and have them repeat the rule about why that particular behavior isn't acceptable or an authoritative word can stop a behavior in its tracks. Other times, the spanking is the only course of action.






    And spanking, in my opinion,
    • should never be done by an angry adult.
    • should never be anywhere except the "padded" part of the body (over the clothes) or the back of the leg and by a custodial parent or other assigned caretaker
    • should never be done with an instrument that could leave bruising or cause emotional harm (such as being beaten with a pvc pipe as some Christian authors suggest)
    • should ideally be done with the palm of the hand
    • should come to a stop when a child gets older and other disciplinary tactics, such as taking away privileges, get much stronger results
    Also, for some children, spanking does NOT work. The abused child, the neglected child, the emotional disturbed child, the handicapped child, and more. And if you find yourself spanking the same child for the same offense over and over - or spanking for EVERY tiny infraction - then it isn't the child who has a problem, it's the adult.

    Some children respond better to other tactics while other children can receive the occasional spanking and their behavior improves.

    I believe spanking is supported by the Bible, yet I also believe that discipline includes practicing the correct behavior until it is learned.

    For example - at school every year, we have many procedures. There are proper ways to go to the locker, sharpen a pencil without disturbing the class, behave in the lunchroom, pass out papers, walk in hall and more. We practice these things over and over. And the go over the rules - not just on the first day, but for many days. Otherwise, chaos reigns. Helping a child to become grounded in the right behavior until they understand and understand WHY the right behavior is right prevents a LOT of spanking and punishments down the road.

    Parenting should be the same way. If you don't want you two-year-old throwing food at the table, then make a fun game out of practicing the correct way to pick up food and put it in one's mouth. And practice it often.

    If you don't want your teenager to be rude and disrespectful, then practice respectful speech habits - talk about speech and what makes the way we talk to each other respectful and/or disrespectful.

    Good behavior doesn't just "happen." And you can't preach or lecture or scream a child into good behavior. It isn't in our nature. We must learn what good behavior is, model it, give all family member opportunities to practice it, and repeat it. Often.
     
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  3. annsni

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    What Scarlett said! :applause:

    Although I do have to say that I had one child that I spanked a lot. Like REALLY a lot. For the same offense. But it was her problem. She was the child who would do something she shouldn't do, be spanked for it and as soon as I was done, she'd walk over and do it again, looking right at me. It was a challenge. I had to win. So I spanked her again. And again. And again - each time she did this. I believe we went 8x before she finally gave in and came to me crying. It was incredible!! But this is also the kid who is now 19 and an amazing young woman who is reliable, trustworthy and has a great head on her shoulders! But boy, did she ever want to become the youngest child - making it that we never wanted to do this again! LOL Fortunately she lost on that one as well and we have two more beautiful children. :)
     
  4. Melanie

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    In New Zealand it is LEGISLATED that it is illegal to smack a child!!! The bleeding heart brigade are at it again.

    Surely common sense (that rare rare thing) could differentiate a smack and a flogging which no right minded person would condone.:BangHead:
     
  5. Salty

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    The local call in talk show host here in Syracuse does not believe in beating your child. To Jim, just slapping your child on his seat would be considered beating.

    Its time we apply the Board of Education to the Seat of Knowledge.
     
  6. blackbird

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    My momma ------ she could go Bear huntin' with a fly flap(fly swatter) ---- she would have made a bad example of New Zealander liberal fly swatter laws!!!!!!!!!!!!:laugh:

    She could break up a fight(between my brother and myself) single handedly with that one single Fly Swatter!!!!!!!!!!
     
  7. Gina B

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    Call me insane, but I'm all for flogging and for making it public.

    I'm generally not for spanking children over the age of 2, maybe 3, and even then should be done in moderation. Then again, personalities are different and sometimes it may still need to be employed after that age when other methods don't work or there isn't time at the moment to employ them. Yes, there are some times when logic dictates that it makes no sense to give a time out, say when you're all getting into the car for church and dear child decides to throw themselves on the ground because they want to change their outfit or bring something not appropriate for church and you're going to be late.

    But older kids, say around 12 and older, who do things that would land them in jail were they adults? Yes, a public flogging would be a wonderful deterrent. Can't say how many times a teen has said "they ain't gonna do nothin, I'm under 18 and the bad apples know exactly what they can get away with at their age. Sometimes they go to juvie, which any worker will tell you is a joke since the kids are minors and it's more of a mini-vacation than anything else. At least in most of the places I've heard of.

    I can see it working for adults too who commit more minor crimes. It would save the expense of having them go to jail for a few days.

    But hey, we're too advanced for that. Instead we spend thousands on building short-term facilities and staffing them so the person has their physical and medical needs met.
     
  8. Jim1999

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    In my schooling, the master carried a rod and did not hesitate to use it; across the knuckles, back or backside. He kept order, and we generally obeyed.

    My father never lifted his hand to us, but mother sure did. She threw whatever came to hand and we had to duck or get smashed.

    I never spanked my children, but did raise my voice. Wife never spanked either. The possibility was always there, so I am not excluding spanking.

    The rod never hurt us, but we were embarrassed in front of the class. I guess that was enough. If our children misbehaved they were not sent to their room insolation. They were made to sit on a stool in kitchen in silence; it worked well.

    The Bible does not opposed physical correction,but it does emphasize correction. Teach a child in the way he should go.

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
  9. KobrinFamily

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    I spanked my two older boy's when they were smaller there 4 and 6 now but really in the end it wasnt worth it....Do I think for some parents/kids yes it dose work but once I lunded my oldest were ADHD some of there actions were not miss behavor....So spanking is now not a option!! And I have lurned alot of other options too do. Mind ya they might get a light backhand on the butt if were being silly lol

    I was beat as a child and could never do the same too my kids!
     
  10. blackbird

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    Years after I outgrew whippin's from momma----there arose a Star Trek series with the aliens called "The Borg!!"

    I then concluded that momma was "The Borg"-----"Resistance is futile!!":type:

    You resisted momma----and it just grew worse by the second!!! Go ahead---be a man---and get it over with!!!!:saint:
     
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