Speaking in Tongues

I hope it is not today, there are many more people that need another day of mercy bestowed upon them......please allow us to witness to couple thousand more!!!

btw....The story I spoke about before, regarding my friend with the brain tumor....before she died, she led quite a few to the Lord by sharing her testimony, and the witness they had of possesing the peace that passes all understanding in the midst of chaos.
Praise God!
Naomi

 

Does this mean that a Baptist that speaks in tongues will
Loose his/her salvation?

 

Originally posted by GrannyGumbo:
A Baptist who speaks in 'tongues', is no longer a Baptist. God's Word warns that those who turn away their ears from the TRUTH shall be turned unto FABLES and that strong DELUSION will be experienced by those who receive NOT the LOVE of the TRUTH, resulting in their believing a LIE.

We are warned of EVIL men and SEDUCERS who will wax WORSE and WORSE, DECEIVING and BEING DECEIVED. Unbiblical teachings and practices are spreading more rapidly than the wildfires out west.

My Bible also tells me that there is nothing wrong with speaking in tongues, in fact, many people in the Bible spoke in tongues. Because of this, I would say that those who speak in tongues are still in the truth, they have not abandonned it. (provided they are speaking in tongues by the Holy Spirit, and not by anything else)I would say this much: God can do whatever He wants, He is omnipotent. Therefore, if He wants someone to speak in tongues, they will speak in tongues. Simply put, please do not limit God. He can work however He wants to.

God Bless,
Matt

 

I feel it is not honoring to Jesus Christ to make these kinds of inflammatory posts.[EagleLives911]

Sorry~'twas taken straight from the KJBible:

2 Tim. 4:4

2 Thess.2:10-11

2 Tim. 3:13

 

Granny, I am not disputing Scripture. I am disputing YOUR INTERPRETATION of Scripture and using certain Scriptures to cast aspersion on those who do not agree with your opinion.

It could be equally turned around and said that those who do NOT believe in tongues are being deceived and heeding to false doctrines!

http://www.truth.ministryonthe.powertap.net/whenwill.htm

The gift of tongues has ceased for some people, for others it has been present throughout since the early church. Different people have different gifts.

All I am saying, Granny, is there will be room in heaven for all of us. We are saved by the Power of the Blood of Jesus Christ. Not on who is right or who is wrong on the tongues issue or the pre-trib issue or the dispensation issue. Bottom line is the Grace and Mercy of Jesus Christ. If He has been merciful towards us, can't we agree to disagree in a spirit of love through Him and not make "cuts" towards other parts of the Body of Christ? Aren't we directed in Ephesians to be lively stones, building each other up?

 

Dear EagleLives911~"Being the true Baptist that I am, I cannot accept the teachings of the Pentecostal website that you posted; sorry. I did punch in "Tongues" & found this bit of information on a Baptist site; but there were others, too. God Bless

www.bible-truth.org/tongues.htm

 

The true test of being "spiritual" is not found in how many different "tongues" one can speak in--but rather, the true test of one's spirituality is in the ability to control the one tongue he/she does have.

One does not take aspirin if one does not have a headache(or some other ache)--its not necessary. True speaking in tongues (aka Acts' Pentecost account) is not necessary in my church because basically everyone here understands English!

 

One fallacy is: "God can do anything." God is limited, both by His nature, and by His Word. For example, it is impossible for God to lie. It is against His nature to do so. And God will never go against His Word. If it is established in His Word that tongues has ceased (and I believe it is), then that what is promoted as tongues today is not of God.

There are many "works" done in the name of Christ, which are obviously not of today:

21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

"Prophesying in the name of Christ, casting out demons, and other wonderful works," like speaking in tongues perhaps? Experiences don't count when standing before Christ. I fear many will find that out far too late.
DHK

 

Hello, Naomi:
Yes, I'm here. Just reading. Never thought one could get burned out in posting. But I guess that's it. Just a little tired. Thanks for your
post.

 

DHK writes:
One fallacy is: "God can do anything." God is limited, both by His nature, and by His Word. For example, it is impossible for God to lie. It is against His nature to do so. And God will never go against His Word. If it is established in His Word that tongues has ceased (and I believe it is), then that what is promoted as tongues today is not of God.

...if you are wrong, where does that leave you? Think about it!

MEE

 

AAAAAYYYYYEEEEEMEN!!!!!

 

It's good to hear from you
Thats okay, my friend, take a rest! LOL! Just pounce whenever you are ready
I am going away for the week-end, but you can keep me in your prayers!
Maybe by then, you will be ready to post.....
Have a good weekend Pinoybaptist
Naomi ( just enjoying God's beautiful creation this weekend )

 

Originally posted by DHK:

One fallacy is: "God can do anything."

Yeah, but, twice my Bible says "all things are possible with God" and one time it was the angel, to Mary, speaking of Jesus' miraculous conception.

I can imagine Jewish leaders of the time may well have grumbled along the lines of "Yeah but God's Word doesn't say He does stuff like that..."

God is limited, both by His nature, and by His Word. For example, it is impossible for God to lie. It is against His nature to do so. And God will never go against His Word. If it is established in His Word that tongues has ceased (and I believe it is), then that what is promoted as tongues today is not of God.

The mistake you are making is, you are limiting God by your interpretation of His Word.

The limit comes from your interpretation of one verse!

Because of one verse you categorically dismiss the experiences of many many other Christians as 'not of God'.

Who are you to say that? To do that?

Why are they excited and full of joy over what God is doing in their churches?

Whereas some non-tongues speaking churches are places of cold dead dry 'knowledge'...so what? Is God at work there? I can't see he's at much at work there as he is through enthused, joyful, tongues-speaking Christians.

I think it rarely works to 'generalize' and it often limits God.

And I don't believe He gave us the Bible to beat up other Christians with...and I mean that either way, whether it's tongues-speakers thinking they are more spiritual than other Christians or non-tongues-speakers thinking they are more 'correct' than tongues-speakers?

Well, it's just my opinion...

 

You just did all whole lot of that didn't you--generalizing!!
Who says all baptist churches are places of cold dead dry knowledge? Where have you been all your life, lady? Stuck in the wrong churches I suppose! Get out and visit some of the right kind, and see what is happening in the world (rather Bible-believing churches that are not of the world!).
DHK

 

When a group of charismatics, with the SBC's pastor's "blessings", took Patrick off to the local 'Apostolic Church', it was because they all thought our church was a place of cold, dead, dry knowledge. Our son was on the youth program, & this group thought they just might go down there & bring back some 'fire' & excitement!

I've often wondered about being called a 'dead' church, as I sure wasn't 'gone' yet. The other 14 members of our family were still very much alive, along with the other members there-some of them may have been hitting 90, but were still breathing.

I think about the days of Jesus, from the time he was 12 on up-just what kind of services did he have; when the little children gathered 'round, etc. & He spoke to the multitudes. I've never thought of His ministry as a 3-ring circus & I've never once read where He spoke in tongues, but I have read about the wrath of God.

The 'revelatory' gifts have ended & we have the KJBible, therefore, we need nothing else. I've heard where some say that the sign of the Holy Ghost's power is speaking-in-tongues, but I believe the sign of the Holy Spirit's presence & power is genuine, Biblical love at work. Yes, love continues~tongues have ceased.

Oh, about the charismatics I mentioned above? Most have quit going there & have moved on to destroy another unsuspecting cold, dead, dry church. The pastor went ahead & retired & hangs his head everytime he sees us in the store. Our son's world continues to be destroyed as a result of this little 'excursion' & his emotional high is wearing down; but we can rejoice, because we are firmly anchored to the promises contained in God's perfect & completed Word.

 

WOW
114 post on this thread.
I think people must be interested in this subject.

Every time this subject comes up it gets lots of threads and usually has to be shut down because of the number of post.
Will this subject Cease???

 

Will this subject Cease???(atestring)

Have no fear~it'll reappear! And when it does, we must make sure that our beliefs are grounded in the Word of God & earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered...(which requires a love for truth that will not tolerate error).

 

Woieh sjhn pasowjgopw poasiwj pojg apoij aopij gfjiop. Dopi spdjn opwjh poj okin wej. Louinb ao anrg aopjh oi opaijg opcij.

 

Granny
the subject of tongues is grounded in God's Word.

I dare you to read the Book of Acts.

The subject of Tongues does not come out of
the Sears and Roebuck catalog but it comes from the Bible!!!!!