Speaking in tongues?

Yes there are.

They believe it because they do not understand:

1. The purpose the gift was originally given.

2. What is the true, biblical evidence of the filling of the Holy Spirit.

and many of them do not understand:

3. That tongues are NOT for producing extra-biblical revelation.

With the completion of the canon of Scripture, there is NO extra-biblical revelation, and the moment that you believe that extra-biblical revelation even exists, you become a cult!

See my detailed explanation of the issue here:

http://www.baptistboard.com/showpost.php?p=1350528&postcount=10

and here:

http://www.baptistboard.com/showpost.php?p=1350954&postcount=18

and here:

http://www.baptistboard.com/showpost.php?p=1351160&postcount=20

and here:

http://www.baptistboard.com/showpost.php?p=1351663&postcount=24

 

I don't know if He does or not, but one thing I do know, if He does, we haven't seen biblical toungues used. Seems to me if the Holy Spirit still gave this gift we'd see biblical toungues, and we aren't seeing it.

 

I have heard stories of the Biblical use of tongues in rare instances, but can not confirm such. None has been a first hand experiance.

 

I speak in a tongue. It is called English.

Cheers,

Jim

 

Do you speak in tongues bodyofchrist32?

 

No, he doesn't.

At least not biblically. :smilewinkgrin:

 

I have heard these stories, too, and the two I read about I believe happened, but I also believe these are not the gift of speaking in tongues but simply a miraculous happening engineered by God.

I think the gift of speaking in tongues ceased once the canon of scripture was completed.

 

One has paticuarly(sp) remained in my mind. I had a girl attend a youth group one night and we were talking after the service about various topics. It turned out that her dad was a missionary and she told a story about an encounter he had when he met a man in the jungle. The man he met told him the location of his tribe. When he went back into the town he gathered some people and they went to visit the village. They arrived and spoke with the villagers through some translators they had with them. When he saw the man he met in the jungle he discovered that the man spoke no english and of course the new missionary did not speak the language of the village.

Is this story true? I don't know, but the daughter of the man sure thought so.

It seamed to line up with the day of pentecost use of tounges. But like I said, I can not confirm it. Nor did I get it from the parties involved.

 

Ended with the canon of scripture??? That gives them around 400 years to get the tongues out of their system!

Cheers,

Jim

 

Don't forget, Salt, that, in EVERY case in the NT where glossalalia was manifested, there were lost Jews present who had no way to receive the Gospel except verbally (via testimony), as the four Gospels had not yet been written.

So - another requirement or two would be:

* Lost Jew(s) present.
* No written Word available to translate.

 

I've been left unconvinced by modern day tongue-speakers.

 

400 years? The canon was complete by around 100 A.D. and the early Christians were using scripture as scripture. I realize a few books were disputed for awhile, but they prettty much used all of the Bible as the Bible. Official pronouncements later were in response to heresies and false gospels.

 

I speak English [Southern Style Of Course.] only. However I have a granddaughter who speaks French.

 

What scripture backs up that speaking in toungues has ceased??

 

Some folks will cite I Corinthians 13:8, which says even though tongues, prophecies and knowledge cease, love won't. These are charismatic gifts which proponents claim still are in operation today. Cessationists say Paul is saying they will cease.

Further, they also cite vv 9-10, which speak of knowing in part and prophesying in part, but when that which is perfect is come, that which is in part shall be done away. The cessationist interpretation is that the gifts of prophecy and knowledge (and the other gifts--tongues, healing, etc.) will stop when the canon (that which is perfect) is completed.

Whether or that "that which is perfect" is the completed Bible is for another thread.

 

Well said, bodyofchrist32.

 

Speaking in tongues isn't commonly used or seen in the Baptist churches I have been to. I have mostly seen that in the Pentecostal churches (Church of God & Assembly of God churches). I believe it is a gift still.

I don't believe is that everyone has that gift. I have attended some Pentecostal churches where they almost try to push the gift onto you. Almost as if to say, "you have to receive this gift".