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Staff at a large church vs. at a small church.

Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by Bible Believing Bill, Nov 22, 2006.

  1. Bible Believing Bill

    Bible Believing Bill <img src =/bbb.jpg>

    Jun 27, 2001
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    In the Pastor Search Committee Protocol thread it seems to be implied that staff members are ordained employees of the church. This may be true in larger churches, but what about smaller ones?

    My church's avg. attendance is about 100 on Sunday morning. We are on sound financial ground, and take care of our Pastor. However, if we had to pay a Music Minister, Youth Pastor, Sunday School Superintendent, etc, then we would be in large financial trouble and the people filling those positions would certainly
    leave us.

    In the place of those people we have members who fill the position of Music Director, Youth Leader, Sunday School Superintendent, etc. I fill the position of Youth Leader. No I am not ordained, no I have not gone to Bible Collage, however I do read and study my bible and am guided by the Holy Spirit.

    Should my church have a rotating door of unsatisfied staff members, or should we have a sound staff of lay church members how will be dedicated to their ministries?

    We can all be called to do different things in different ways. No one has to be ordained, or a "professional" to be called.

    Bill :godisgood:
  2. Tom Bryant

    Tom Bryant Active Member

    Apr 13, 2006
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    First of all, thank you for your service to the Lord and His church. Without people like you, no church - whether large or small - would be able to continue its ministry. Forget the big church pastors, you all are the heroes.

    You are exactly right. No one needs to be ordained to serve the Lord in a ministry position. I believe ordination is, for lack of a better word, a stamp of approval for men who are going to be vocational pastors. I don't use the word professional, because pastors ought to be professional in terms of how we carry ourselves, but we are primarily ministers/servants to God's people.

    The problem is that when a church grows very large, the staff people end up being administrators while the people in the church get the fun stuff of actually doing the work of the ministry.
  3. Joshua Rhodes

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    Jun 9, 2003
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    BBB -

    In Ozark Mountain vernacular - you work with what you've got. And it sounds to me like the Lord has provided well for your church. I am a licensed and ordained man, and serve as our church's worship and youth pastor. I do not have a Bible degree, but I do read and study alot in addition to my daily quiet time to be in front of the kids weekly with two Bible studies, as well as leading worship. God equips those He calls, He doesn't necessarily always call the equipped. Keep plugging! Let's reach as many for Christ as we can in the time we have!
  4. Jim1999

    Jim1999 <img src =/Jim1999.jpg>

    Aug 10, 2002
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    Mr. Spurgeon, the great Baptist preacher, creator of a marvellous pastor's college, and leader of over ten thousand, was never ordained. He reportedly said, "Why lay empty hands on empty heads?"

    Ordination is not either the beginning or the end of ministry. In my day, one had to prove a sound knowledge of scripture, evidence of a calling to ministry, and a sound personal witness to a life in Christ. The local church did the ordaining, assisted by the association of fellow churches. For legal purposes, the organization issued a writ of ordination.

    In my mind, the local church IS the gathering of the twice-born and baptized souls, and the leadership ought to be the same, whether large or small. Once the local church starts to engage paid staff to do what faithful people of Christ had done all through the years, is the day I move on as the pastor. I did not receive a salary, I received a love offering, to equip me to fulltime commitment to the work as pastor. If I wanted a salary, I would seek a secular position somewhere, and serve ministry as an aside.

    God bless the faithful in each church. Each one has a place in my mind, and I always valued their presence. The largest church I pastored had 400 plus members, and I was the only one who received monies. What a blessing it was to have people so dedicated to the Lord that they would take precious time to serve Him.

    Cheers, and God bless the servers, from a grateful pastor of many years of service,