Standards in Church

So one could say that modest dress is a personal conviction, based on scripture; but shouldn't I be worrying about more than what I personally am convicted of?[/QB][/QUOTE]

Amen, Brother Don!
Our personal convictions can conflict with the standards, and yes, the "rules" found in God's Holy Word. It kinda' reminds me of that war that we all as Christians have to fight daily. The "flesh" vs. the "Spirit" (Galations 5:17).

A true Christian cannot find true happiness, or a harmonious life without this formula:
J esus first! -- Be obedient to the Bible!
O thers second! -- Be compassionate!
Y ourself last! -- Be self-sacrificing, just as our Lord gave His all for mankind on the cruel cross, so must we (as Christians) emulate His selflessness, and sacrifice as we deal with the world, and the church!

In Christ,
Mike

 

How is it a rebellious attitude to not let a man place his own personal convictions on my life as a rule instead of living the way God himself instructs me to live. Keeping in mind, I wouldn't put myself under the leadership of anyone who's willing to dictate their convictions.

karen

 

When one fails to submit to the authority God has put over them it is rebellion!

Karen's post indicated she was her own authority and the Lord had no authority through the local church to guide her to a victorious Christian life in submission to the Lord.

We submit to the Lord by submitting to those in authority over us and contrary to the opinion of many, the Lord has given this authority to His church and the pastor!!!

Ernie

 

If the pastor of the church you go to dictates to the church how they are to dress and live and walk and talk and his rules are extra biblical, then get out.
If the church's rules are something the church as a body has agreed on, and are Biblically founded, and you join the church and are accepted into its fellowship, then it behooves you to abide by the church's code.
One cannot and should not expect any church to bend backwards on account of one's personal conviction.
If one cannot live by the standards set by the church he/she is a member of, then it is time to say goodbye. One's staying in that church is unfair to the church, and the church's keeping such a member is unfair to the member.
If Karen wants to go to church heavily made up or otherwise, or with all the rings and earrings hanging out of where she places them, then she is free to find a church where such practices are accomodated.
If one has a problem with a man and not a
church, then confront the man in a Biblical manner.
If the problem is the church code and everybody else is happy and backs the pastor up, then leave the church. But leave quietly, without murmuring.

 

Karen, what does your husband say?

 

Karen,
What you wear to church is between you and God. You have that liberty. Just so you understand, it is the same way here. May I ask you one question however? In the church you attend, are the Sunday School teachers allowed to wear anything they want--even mini-skirts?
DHK

 

Dr. Bob Thank you for your post, it was greatly appreciated.

Ernie, No it's not rebellion, it is actually harmful to sit under a leadership who dictates over you matters that are not brought on bibically but by personal conviction. I have been forced growing up to sit under such leadership and that very leadership not only fell hard but took several families down with him due to the fact that it was all about what HE wanted and thought was "holy" and not scripturally based.

Dhk, in answer to your question....I go to a church currently which holds no dress code and Sunday School teachers are free to dress in whatever makes them comfortable. We have never had an issue of an imodest dresser because I believe that the women are all child concsious and sensitive to the Holy Spirit...they'll wear pants or jeans even appropriately lengthed shorts and no problems. Actually our pastor doesn't even dress up, you are very lucky to find him in a tie.

karen

 

Just some thoughts,(I'm NOT meaning no offense): In one carnal church we attended, some teachers even went so far as to come in tube-tops & shorts! Yes, even the 'hip' pastor 'dressed-down' also. But you know what?! Whenever there was a wedding there, guess who were all "dressed-up"?! Now, how does one explain that?! One of the gals was asked why they didn't dress-up like that to come to the KING's House...I never heard the reply.

 

Hi! I just wondered: WHAT'S WRONG WITH WEARING SHORTS??? What's indecent about our knees and below? Or have I missed something?

 

Personally, my knees are pretty ugly...just ask my wife....

 

First of all I wear the same thing for weddings as I would church. As for those in the wedding party it's up to the bride and groom who wears what for that. The "King's house" is a building, the king is who is to be respected and the way you do that is in your heart, if you are convicted to show thru clothing then by all means do so but otherwise it's no one else's buisness..it's a matter between you and the owner of the house...THE KING!!

This is such a legalistic matter and for one to enforce a certain "standard" or rule is wrong in my opinion...call it carnal if you wish that's up to you...but I won't be part of a church who does enforce this because once again in my opinion that is overstepping bounderies.

I don't think I answered Don's question either, my husband doesn't care what I wear to church, his thoughts are be comfortable and go to learn and grow.

karen

[ May 12, 2002, 05:31 PM: Message edited by: redwhitenblue ]