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Standards to a Fundamentalist

Discussion in 'Fundamental Baptist Forum' started by Luke2427, Jul 8, 2010.

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How important are standards to you?

  1. not at all

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  2. smoewhat

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    32.1%

  3. very

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    32.1%

  4. you can't be a true fundamentalist without them

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  1. TCassidy

    TCassidy Late-Administator Emeritus
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    Define "standards." I have only 1 Standard, the word of God. If the bible says "don't" we don't. If the bible says "do" we do. If the bible is silent on the issue so are we. :)
     
    #21 TCassidy, Jul 9, 2010
  2. nashpd

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    If I may express...

    Brothers and sisters,

    Please do not get me wrong here. I am not an American, but I am a believer in Christ...I do not live in America.

    I would like to say, you have the luxury of debating and discussing over standards...it is indeed a blessing to be born and live in a nation that claims to be founded on Biblical principles.

    I suggest you spend some time and dwelling on the scores of people the world over who even struggle to profess their faith -- not because they are ashamed, but because of fear of losing their life.

    We all know life is His, but when death stares at you in the face, we all face fear...Please understand, it is not my intention to talk back or be rude -- my apologies if i come across as that...

    American society would probably consider Christian ways as being old-fashioned and so "uncool". But there are regions on earth where Christian ways have to be "crushed"...pray for all these souls that endure hardships!
     
    #22 nashpd, Jul 9, 2010
  3. Mexdeaf

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    Post of the DECADE!
     
    #23 Mexdeaf, Jul 9, 2010
  4. Mexdeaf

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    Only if you twist the definition of "liberal"- theologically speaking, that is.
     
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  5. nashpd

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    Be considerate

    There is a balance needed...

    The Lord says let not meat be a hurdle for someone's growth...we need to be considerate...we need to be understanding...

    WE need humility and submission...The desire to be living by His Word is paramount for a fundamentalist...but we are under Grace not under law so there can be no black and white ways of clothing, interaction, etc, etc
     
    #25 nashpd, Jul 9, 2010
  6. nashpd

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    Do you agree?

    Do you agree honestly with the views or do you think I wrote more than what I should have?
     
    #26 nashpd, Jul 9, 2010
  7. Mexdeaf

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    I AGREE! I just returned from Ukraine with a new understanding of how SPOILED us American "Christians" are.
     
    #27 Mexdeaf, Jul 9, 2010
  8. nashpd

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    God bless you!

    Now you truly know how blessed you are! Pl pray for me...i'm facing a battle too...and it's associated with faith...
     
    #28 nashpd, Jul 9, 2010
  9. Luke2427

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    Four have now said that anyone who does not emphasize standards is a liberal but I am waiting for one of them to have the courage to defend their position.
     
    #29 Luke2427, Jul 9, 2010
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    Welcome back Mexdeaf.

    You are right in your statement. I have said for years now that "a little travel gives a big education."

    I hope you really enjoyed your trip. Tell us about it.

    I would love to visit the Ukraine someday. We have some good friends in Prague who are from the Ukraine, they are wonderful Christians.
     
    #30 Crabtownboy, Jul 9, 2010
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    Amen and amen. I can honestly say that there are MANY American "Christians" who would run from the label if they lived in another country. Persecution is pretty much nil here and what we do have is not even on the fringe of what true persecution is.

    I will definitely pray dear nashpd. :praying:
     
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    Actually, she has thought her position through.

    And she has voted not to be a pharisee.
     
    #32 rbell, Jul 9, 2010
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    No - I think he means that those who think that those who say that you can't be a fundamentalist without strict dress/music/conduct standards haven't really thought their position through. I don't think he was addressing me (at least that's how I read it).
     
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    "These folks" refer to pharisees. I was agreeing with her. Pay attention please.
     
    #34 Luke2427, Jul 10, 2010
  15. Mexdeaf

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    Men's "standards" are not immutable, and therefore not imperative.

    God's Standard - the Law or Word of God IS invariable and imperative.

    The problem comes when we confuse the two or when we twist God's Word to say something it does NOT.
     
    #35 Mexdeaf, Jul 10, 2010
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    My fault for misunderstanding.
     
    #36 rbell, Jul 10, 2010
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    I kind of like that Equestrian Look! You could even look like Roy Rodgers for all I would care
     
    #37 Earth Wind and Fire, Jul 10, 2010
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    Where in the Bible does it say not to smoke. Oh, I know, "...the body is the temple..."
    Ok, so we don't use tobacco because it is a drug, but what about doctor prescribed drugs?
    How about Coca-cola - that contains drugs - and there are those who abstain from caffeine of any sort. Unless specifically prohibited in Scripture, the rest is up to our understanding, which also includes local customs.

    Up North Christians think nothing of mixed swimming - but down South....
    so who is right? How about eating in the church sanctuary or some local assemblies prohibit eating anywhere in the church building. That belief is based on the writings of Paul in the New Testament.

    Yes, the list goes on and on and on...
     
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  19. Mexdeaf

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    Define "drugs", "mixed swimming", and "eating". Then we might get somewhere in this discussion. :smilewinkgrin:
     
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    Solid Christians had no problem smoking in the 1800's and early 1900's. A sip of brandy between afternoon tea and supper was very common. It was the Woman's Temperance Movement, early 1900's, that started to put the clamps on both drinking and smoking. The NT ideas may have slipped in along the way.

    Just a few historical facts.

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
    #40 Jim1999, Jul 11, 2010
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