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Stanford Scientists Gave a Diagnosis of Anthony Fauci's Credibility. You May Want to Sit Down.

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  1. Revmitchell

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    A Stanford epidemiologist said Dr. Anthony Fauci's "credibility is entirely shot" after his conflicting advice on face masks throughout the pandemic — which the scientist criticized as "all over the place."
    "I think he's been all over the place on masks," Jay Bhattacharya, a professor of medicine at Stanford, told Fox News host Laura Ingraham on her show, "The Ingham Angle" Saturday.
    "There are emails you can find in the treasure trove of emails that have been released where he acknowledged the virus has been aerosolized," he continued.
    "Well, the cloth masks people have been recommending, they're not particularly effective against aerosolized viruses.
    "I really don't understand his back and forth, and his answer made absolutely no sense."

    Stanford Scientists Gave a Diagnosis of Anthony Fauci's Credibility. You May Want to Sit Down.
     
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    You know the response because it has been told to you multiple times how surgical masks do not protect the wearer but others from the wearer. Dr Battacharya knows this too.

    It shows the complete lack of ethics for someone like this Dr Battacharya who unsurprisingly is another member of the Hoover Institution. There will be a point where Stanford will need to dissociate from that group if they continue to make such blatantly unethical, medically harmful statements purely for political reasons. It is damaging to their reputation as a respectable university.


    When people continually make statements they know to be false to smear another person for political reasons, that is the definition of slander.
     
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    You spin a good yarn, but it falls apart on its face.
     
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    The evidence you provide to back up your statement is ….. **** crickets ****
     
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    What causes you to think Dr. B is at the Hoover Inst.? Stanford has a large medical center that is not part of the HI.
     
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    Jay Bhattacharya
     
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    "Jay Bhattacharya, M.D., was a research fellow at the Hoover Institution. He is an assistant professor at Stanford University Medical School."
    Please note the wording. He was at the Hoover. He is now at Stanford Uni. Medical School.
     
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    Considering he wrote an article 3 months ago for the Hoover institute, it is pretty safe to say he is still a member.

    California's Failed Response To COVID
     
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    We will see how long the money from the Hoover Institution will allow them to keep lowering the reputation of Stanford university.

    Stanford’s relationship to the Hoover Institution highlights Faculty Senate discussion - Stanford Today

     
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    the evidence is the op
     
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    There is a bit of a strawman here. Masks are meant to prevent the virus from becoming aerosolized (not to protect from aerosolized viruses).
     
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    Jay Bhattacharya is also the same person in the same interview that revmitchell posted about the same topic a few days ago.

    Stanford epidemiologist says Fauci's credibility is 'entirely shot'

    Maybe if you post this story 100 times folks will be tricked into thinking there are 100 people who believe this. When the reality is there is one guy in Hoover Institution that is the one who lacks credibility.

    He is one of three who wrote the ironically named Great Barrington Declaration which was emphatically denounced by medical groups across the globe (Infectious Disease Society, John Snow Memorandum, American Society of Nephrology)

    He is also the senior author of the Santa Clara covid19 serology study that was roundly criticized for design flaws including using a test from China that was later banned from use.

    How (Not) to Do an Antibody Survey for SARS-CoV-2

    New Covid-19 Antibody Study Results Are In. Are They Right?
     
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    People have made up their minds (I have seen people change from anti-vacvine to pro-vaccine but only after contracting COVID...exprence seems to speak louder than opinion).

    The issue is these anti-vaccine folks reach to find any support -even support that are contradictions (like trying to link vaccines to autism, to experiments with the common cold, and then to gene therapy).

    COVID and COVID vaccines were political tools, now the issue has its own politics (science has been tossed out the window).

    The article itself is proof. For over a year masks were said to help prevent the spread of the virus by preventing the contagen from becoming airborne (preventing it from becoming aerosolized) when emitted in large droplets from an infected person. But look at the article. It discredits the science by stating cloth masks do not protect against the aerosolized virus (it creates a false, or strawman, argument).

    I'm all for exploring the virus from all sides. But what we have here is nothing but propaganda (and conspiracy theory).
     
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    Those tactics used and science being tossed out the window are nothing new. I've been confronting those tactics from the same news sources and the same posters on here for over 15 years.
     
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    Look at the 180 done by one of the major scientists your theory relies on.
     
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    Making the right decisions based on evidence requires knowing the science, having the data and applying it at the right time. Fauci never did a 180 on anything.

    When it was right to advise against masks because very few people were infected and hospitals were about to run out of PPE he did so. Because surgical masks are not designed to protect the wearer but to protect everyone else from the wearer. So they would have been wasting a valuable resource if it was recommended for hundreds of millions of healthy people to hoard masks back in March 8, 2020.

    When the mask shortage was no longer a problem and there were many folks infected, the CDC and Fauci made the decision based on evidence and data to change the recommendation to the right one at that time which was to recommend masking for everyone so that presymptomatic spread of covid19 (while they were asymptomatic) could be minimized and lives saved.

    People who don't care about science or data or making good decisions that will help others are unable to make those kinds of decisions at the right time.
     
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