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Stranger accused of slapping crying child in store

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    Wow. Just wow. This is one reason why I believe in the right of concealed carry. This jerk could have seriously harmed the child or anyone else for that matter, with a temper like that.
     
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    The mother should have taken the girl out to the car and given her something to cry about. It would have prevented the assault.
     
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    Aaron, the article did not say WHY the toddler was crying. Good grief, why are you so quick to judge the parent and child when that information is not even given? No decent parent is going to abuse their own child (as you suggested) simply because the child's cry annoys a stranger.
     
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    In all likelihood it was an unruly child allowed to throw her tantrum by her numbskull mother. (I call her a numbskull, because I know if some old man laid a hand on one of our girls my wife have climbed down his throat and pulled his rearend out through his nose [or died trying]. What did this woman do? Nothing.)

    Like I said, what didn't the mother do? I could be wrong, but in all likelihood, I'm not.

    Speak of being quick to judge! I never suggested such a thing.
     
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    Only Aaron would justify this garbage and blame the mother. It has come to be expected, though.
     
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    According to Aaron's doctrine this child is a grievous sinner. The old man was probably an instrument in the hands of God to punish this sinning 2 year old.
     
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    Now I've heard it all. I've generally agreed with most of your posts on this board, but this post of yours is just asinine.
     
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    Um, yes you did. "Giving her something to cry about" can mean all sorts of things, most of them unappropriate. If you meant gentle, godly correction you should have specified it.

    The mother is not the criminal here, nor is she on trial for having a crying child. Even if her daughter were throwing a temper tantrum (which is NOT stated in the article and should not be assumed) nobody has a right to physically harm the child or bully the parent.

    By the way, I don't scripturally correct my children to prevent strangers from physically abusing them. I correct my children to bring them up in the Lord, and that correction certainly DOES NOT involve slapping the child's face.
     
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    Please point out the place I justified the assault.

    If the situation is as I assume it to be, she would be culpable.
     
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    We've discussed this kind of thing before, and I don't expect you to be realistic or reasonable. You don't respond to the things I actually say, only the things you imagine I say.
     
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    While I agree that this individual committed a crime and should be prosecuted, to say that this was a situation that warrented the use of deadly force is a little over the top. As an individual who CCWs every single day, I can say that even brandishing a firearm in this situation would have been extremely poor judgment.
     
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    Every situation is an appropiate situation to brand a firearm about. as per Al Capone
     
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    That is overboard...it:

    (1) Assumes more info than you have for this situation (and yes, I am a proponent of corporal punishment);
    (2) Blames the victim. You could have just as easily said, "The mother should have left the child locked up in a hot car in the parking lot. That would have prevented the assault as well."
     
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    If you have evidence that such is the case, I call on you to produce it.

    It sounds a lot like you're excusing this man for his behavior.

    Let me remind you this is a "toddler". There is absolutely nothng , and I do mean nothing, that excuses a stranger slapping a child this age. It's even extremely questionable that a parent should slap this child, let alone a complete stranger in a department store.

    Heck, my blood pressure is going up just thinking about it!
     
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    In Texas, she could have shot him with impunity.

    If he's crazy enough to assault a toddler in public, she could easily make a case for shooting him. It was the act of a dangerous, possibly unbalanced man.
     
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    Exactly. How would the mother know the guy would stop at a slap? He could shake the child and cause brain damage or throw the kid down on the concrete floor. This man's behavior was not reasonable and the mom has a responsibility to protect her toddler.
     
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    Why it's likely:

    2 years old. "Terrible Twos."
    No father cited in any of the articles I've seen on the Internet.
    Mother lives with her aunt.
    The guy got in at least four shots before a stranger (not the mother) intervened. (Wouldn't have happened with MY wife.)

    How? By pointing out how a lack of discipline can endanger a child?

    Where did I excuse him?
    Where did I imply that a parent should slap a 2-year-old in the face?
     
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    Then define what you meant by "giving her something to cry about."

    If you mean a spanking, then say so. Otherwise that phrase can be interpreted in many different ways.
     
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    IOW you have no evidence, just a warped opinion and you're starting to run backwards on the implications of your comments.
     
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