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Strategy for forcing political change through orchestrated crisis

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Revmitchell, Mar 10, 2009.

  1. Revmitchell

    Revmitchell Well-Known Member
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    First proposed in 1966 and named after Columbia University sociologists Richard Andrew Cloward and Frances Fox Piven, the "Cloward-Piven Strategy" seeks to hasten the fall of capitalism by overloading the government bureaucracy with a flood of impossible demands, thus pushing society into crisis and economic collapse.

    Inspired by the August 1965 riots in the black district of Watts in Los Angeles (which erupted after police had used batons to subdue a black man suspected of drunk driving), Cloward and Piven published an article titled "The Weight of the Poor: A Strategy to End Poverty" in the May 2, 1966 issue of The Nation. Following its publication, The Nation sold an unprecedented 30,000 reprints. Activists were abuzz over the so-called "crisis strategy" or "Cloward-Piven Strategy," as it came to be called. Many were eager to put it into effect.

    In their 1966 article, Cloward and Piven charged that the ruling classes used welfare to weaken the poor; that by providing a social safety net, the rich doused the fires of rebellion. Poor people can advance only when "the rest of society is afraid of them," Cloward told The New York Times on September 27, 1970. Rather than placating the poor with government hand-outs, wrote Cloward and Piven, activists should work to sabotage and destroy the welfare system; the collapse of the welfare state would ignite a political and financial crisis that would rock the nation; poor people would rise in revolt; only then would "the rest of society" accept their demands.

    The key to sparking this rebellion would be to expose the inadequacy of the welfare state. Cloward-Piven's early promoters cited radical organizer Saul Alinsky as their inspiration. "Make the enemy live up to their (sic) own book of rules," Alinsky wrote in his 1972 book Rules for Radicals. When pressed to honor every word of every law and statute, every Judaeo-Christian moral tenet, and every implicit promise of the liberal social contract, human agencies inevitably fall short. The system's failure to "live up" to its rule book can then be used to discredit it altogether, and to replace the capitalist "rule book" with a socialist one.

    The authors noted that the number of Americans subsisting on welfare -- about 8 million, at the time -- probably represented less than half the number who were technically eligible for full benefits. They proposed a "massive drive to recruit the poor onto the welfare rolls." Cloward and Piven calculated that persuading even a fraction of potential welfare recipients to demand their entitlements would bankrupt the system. The result, they predicted, would be "a profound financial and political crisis" that would unleash "powerful forces … for major economic reform at the national level."

    Their article called for "cadres of aggressive organizers" to use "demonstrations to create a climate of militancy." Intimidated by threats of black violence, politicians would appeal to the federal government for help. Carefully orchestrated media campaigns, carried out by friendly, leftwing journalists, would float the idea of "a federal program of income redistribution," in the form of a guaranteed living income for all -- working and non-working people alike. Local officials would clutch at this idea like drowning men to a lifeline. They would apply pressure on Washington to implement it. With every major city erupting into chaos, Washington would have to act.


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  2. blackbird

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    Are you saying that we are experiencing what was written back in '66??
     
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    Its very possible that someone had the idea then & now that we have a crisis that has been created, it is all being laid out.

    I also think that if Y2K had been as big of a problem as it was expected, then everything mentioned would have occurred sooner. I was expecting Bill Clinton to indefinetely postpone the 2000 presidential election so he could stay in office longer. Fortunately, I was wrong about that.
     
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    Could be what do you think?
     
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    Rohm Emanuel and Hillary Clinton have stated that they must take advantage of any crisis. Wether the crisis is real or created by O'bama rhetoric is irrelevant.
     
  6. JustChristian

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    This was the NeoCon objective, to bankrupt the US economy and to take advantage of a crisis like 9/11 to take over the government. This is not Obama's objective thank goodness. We survived the Bush attack on our Republic.
     
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    Wow! To make a statement like this you must have a pair of glasses made from the same stuff as those trick mirrors at the carnival!:sleep::rolleyes:
     
  9. matt wade

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    Yes...JustChristian's statement is outlandish and not based in reality.

    Remember however, others on this board have said that Obama's plan is to purposely bankrupt this country so that he can take advantage of it.

    We've got both extremes here and both are very scary.
     
  10. JustChristian

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    This is on the first post. Do you think it is outlandish? Why not? It's just a different group taking advantage of an orchestrated crisis. This writer says liberals want to hasten the fall of capitalism. I'm saying the NeoCon's wanted to bankrupt America so all social programs would have to be stopped. Maybe they're both outlandish but not one more than the other.

    First proposed in 1966 and named after Columbia University sociologists Richard Andrew Cloward and Frances Fox Piven, the "Cloward-Piven Strategy" seeks to hasten the fall of capitalism by overloading the government bureaucracy with a flood of impossible demands, thus pushing society into crisis and economic collapse.
     
  11. matt wade

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    I totally agree with this statement.
     
  12. billwald

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    (In the same way) Some theorize that FDR set up the attack on Pearl to get us into WW2. As a naval person he should have known that the ships in Battleship Row were sitting ducks.
     
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