Suicide and 911

The wisdom of this world is foolishness with God.

 

Eh????

Well I guess if you should ever be kidnapped by terrorists simply close your eyes and tell them that this whole situation is not real because it's not biblical. Maybe when you open your eyes again everything is gone and you find yourself sitting at home on your desk in front of your bible. It's worth a try, isn't it? :thumbsup:

 

Because he said so.....:BangHead:

 

Straight is the gate and narrow the way that leads to life eternal and few there be that find it.

 

Oh. I didn't know that he was involved in the writing of the King James bible.

 

Your lexicon is not scripture. The word you are referring to may mean murder, but does not necessarily mean murder. Could just as well mean to take or adopt...according to your lexicon.

There is a greek word which specifically means murder. It is used throughout the New Testament, twice even by Luke. Yet, it is not used in Acts 16:27.

 

Seems that you want to add another sin to the list of unpardonable sins. Seems that you want Mark 3:29 to say, "But he that either shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost, or kill himself, have never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation."

 

No, because the Word of God says so.

 

And your teaching that suicides will not go to hell is not Scripture.

 

Interesting non-response. So we agree, then, that the Bible does not necessarily imply "murder" in Acts 16:27?

 

Let's see...

He took out his sword and would have adopted himself.... nope doesn't fit.

He took out his sword and would have abolished himself... still does not make sense.

But kill does mean murder, slay, put to death when you read the context. He was going to end his life. A roman soldier could have been killed for losing prisoners in his charge. He thought he had lost those in his charge. Instead of letting his superiors murder him, he decided to murder himself.

I will use HBSMN's tag here...

"If the literal sense makes sense, seek no other sense, lest it result in nonsense." M.R. DeHaan

Suicide is murder. No murderers have eternal life abiding in them. All murderers will have their part in the lake of fire.

"If the literal sense makes sense, seek no other sense, lest it result in nonsense." M.R. DeHaan

 

And yet, despite your cliches, the Bible still did not specifically say murder, did it?

 

The context that the guard was going to kill himself is a given. You attempted to say that the Bible calls this murder because it specifically says murder in the Greek.

It does not. Address the point, please, or resign the argument.

 

It does say murder in the Greek.

 

Like I said before, THou shalt not Kill.... that entire second half of the 10 commandments about your neighbor is "Love thy neighbor ... AS THYSELF"

so how in the world can you think it is allright to kill yourself but not your neighbor if you are to love your neighbor AS THYSELF?

I think its just silly to even have a question about this... suicide is self-murder. You are just taking your own life as opposed to taking someone elses

 

somehow I think you mustve misunderstood everything I said... or just havent read all my posts on these threads about suicide

 

scarlett,

you need to go read all my posts on these suicide threads... you have a really distorted view of what my views are. I think its absurd even to ask if the question, of course they'd jump out of the building, what else would anyone expect them to do? I just view it as a question that doesnt even need to be talked about

 

Claudia, I am confused. You seem to be going from one side of the fence to the other. On the one hand you say only God knows the heart and then on the other you say if someone commits suicide they are a murderer. Which is it?