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Supreme Court rejects atheist's appeal over 11-story Illinois cross

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by Revmitchell, Jan 25, 2013.

  1. Revmitchell

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    The U.S. Supreme Court has rejected a Buffalo Grove atheist's final appeal in his lawsuit challenging the use of state funds to renovate an 11-story cross atop southern Illinois' tallest peak, ending the legal dispute spanning more than two years.

    The nation's high court on Tuesday declined without comment to review Robert Sherman's request to hear his case involving the $20,000 grant given in 2008 to the 111-foot-high Bald Knob Cross of Peace near Alto Pass. Lower courts already had ruled that Sherman lacked standing to sue over the grant.

    Sherman sued in August 2010, arguing that efforts to repair the cross using state money have "the primary effect of advancing a particular religious sect, namely Christianity." He noted that the grant came from a $5 million pot of money that the state Legislature channeled to the Illinois Department of Commerce and Economic Opportunity.

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/01/2...illinois-cross/?test=latestnews#ixzz2J0ZAsN3n
     
  2. Magnetic Poles

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    Not having standing hurt his chances. However, once we get a couple of more Obama-appointed justices, there will be real enforcement of our constitution. The atheist is correct...taxpayers money should not be used to support shrines to one religion.

    “When a religion is good, I conceive it will support itself; and when it does not support itself, and God does not care to support it, so that its professors are obliged to call for the help of the civil power, ‘tis a sign, I apprehend, of its being a bad one.” - Benjamin Franklin
     
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    Ben was lost and religion won't help you eather. Try saying Jesus and see how far you get.
     
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    I can't decipher what you are trying to say, but are you saying you think taxpayers who do not share a religious viewpoint should be forced by the government to pay for upkeep on a religious shrine for another group?
     
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    If it has a historical/cultural significance - then by all means YES!
     
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    So why is taxing people to pay for healthcare any less important. We ALL will need healthcare sooner or later. I'd rather be taxed to insure we all have coverage over repairing some silly object d'art.
     
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    Do taxing and forcing hard working Americans to buy healthcare AND footing the bill for illegal immigrants healthcare part of this great righteous FAIR SHARE vision? FAIL!
     
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    Derail, but I will briefly humor you and await answers to my question.

    So-called "illegal" immigrants are human beings who hurt and get sick like anyone. They also work very hard for the most part. And they pay taxes too. This is a bigger problem. As long as you have a third-world economy bordering the USA, there will be people getting here any way they can.

    Back to your regularly scheduled program.
     
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    They are lawbreakers and turning a blind eye caters to this lawlessness. Dose the IRS have such a benevolent attitude towards us if we break the law?
     
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    Thanks Salty for pointing the obvious to mp.:smilewinkgrin:
     
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    Did you ever read of a case where an atheist sued to begin a new housing development on a "Native American Sacred Site" because any level of government designating it such and prohibiting development is "advancing a particular religion?" No, they and nonchristians and the MP type file their cases like this one or to keep astronauts from reading from the Bible on a government space vehicle. Nor do they sue to legally possess an eagle feather, as only native Americans can possess one, even though the eagle it was plucked from is just as naked.
     
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    Because culture is authorized under provisions of Article 1, Section 8 subsectin 8 of the COTUS.
    Health care is not a constitional activity of the Federal Govt. (State/commonwealth is a different story)

    Stop and think for a minute - would it be better for the US to have a sucessful person come to the States to help the economy or for a poor person come who lives off the govt (ie taxpayer)?
     
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    Several fallacies here:

    Non sequitur

    ad hominem

    strawman

    begging the question
     
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