Surrogacy in India

Surrogates are documented in the US for many years - not just India. But in that case we do not call the child "the son" of some family member in the Surrogates lineage.

Christ on the other hand is called "the Son of David" - he is also called "the Son of man".

None of this would be true if in fact he had no biological connection at all to human lineage nor humanity.

The Angels are not called "the son of Angel" but "the sons of God" because they are in fact made by God directly even though as a species - ontologically they are "Angels". This would be the case with Christ (as with Adam) - no possibility of calling him "son of man" or "son of David" -- only "son of God" though made ontologically as "human" via the incarnation. (IF in fact your surrogate theory for incarnation were the exact biological mechanism that is being conveyed in scripture).

Remember the biological structures are the "engineering" for the body - not the essence of the soul.

 

SFIC, you sure assert certainty about debatable positions.

 

That position is called Gnosticism. John fought against that heresy in his first epistle. It is claiming to know knowledge (Gk, gnosis) apart from the Word of God, perhaps claiming it to be from the Spirit. It is a higher knowledge that no one else has. You have this knowledge that has been revealed to you, and yet has not been revealed to any one else throughout the centuries? That is gnosticism.

 

No, in fact I don't like to use the word but find that in certain situations it becomes necessary. Think about it. Even Morris, who believes in a position that is similar to you would never state something that you just did. We all have our opinions, and some of us hold to them fairly strongly--to the point where we call them convictions. But there are some things that are debatable; otherwise the purpose of this forum would be fruitful.

Let me give you an example using a different subject.
One poster says: The Holy Spirit told me that Calvinism is the one true doctrine, and all those who don't believe in Calvinism are wrong.
Another poster says, The Holy Spirit spoke to me and showed me that Calvinism is wrong, and those that believe in it are going to Hell!
Does the Holy Spirit contradict Himself?

There is a Cal/Arm debate going on not because either position is right or wrong, and not because the Holy Spirit has revealed one side or the other side to any one person; but because of their own personal study and the conclusions that they have arrived at because of that study, and the influence of the study of others around them.

Just an observation: It doesn't seem that you are doing much objective study on your own, but rather taking the word of just one person--perhaps Morris. Maybe you need to consult more than just one or two commentaries and find out what the majority of evangelicals believe on this subject and why.

I asked you a similar question in the thread now closed.
Why are you, of all the ones posting, the only person taking the position that you do. It is not me that you are arguing with, but Ann, TCGreek, et. al.

The Bible does not say that her egg was not used.
To say that her egg was not used is to deny the humanity of Christ, and to deny specific definitions of words such as "conceive," in the Word of God. One needs to be careful about changing or adding to the Word of God.

 

This statement says that Christ is a created being, like Adam was a created being (in the same fashion as the first Adam).
The Bible does not teach that Christ was a created being.
The J.W.'s teach that Christ was a created being, but not the Bible.

 

That is not what Scripture says. I have outlined already for you the teaching of Hebrews 10--the contrast of the Levitical sacrificial system to the one sacrifice--Christ, a Lamb slain before the foundation of the world. You pull that verse out of context and build a doctrine out of it. That is not rightly dividing the word of truth.

The word "begotten" in reference to Christ is used many times over. Christ was begotten, not created. He is the only begotten Son of God. His embryo was not sent in a spaceship by God to Mary's womb, or in any way "created" outside of it. He is not a created being. Nor was his humanity "cut short" at the beginning of his life. He was begotten not created. The word formed means created.
Christ wasn't created.