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Tancredo: McCain, Giuliani would be disastrous for GOP

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by LadyEagle, Nov 22, 2006.

  1. LadyEagle

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    I'd vote for Tom. He is a great Neo-Con leader.

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  3. saturneptune

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    I know nothing about Tom, but what is said is entirely correct. If the Democrats do not nominate a moderate, and go with a Hillary or Obama Osama, who would we vote for with McCain or Gulliani on the ticket? We would be forced to a third party.
     
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    We could do a write in, as I have done before.

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  5. KenH

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    Tancredo is much more like Ron Paul than a neocon.

    Tancredo has stated that if he enters the race that will be simply to keep the illegal immigration issue in the debate. He harbors no illusions of winning the nomination.
     
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    I could not willingly support McCain or Guliani, but could willingly support Newt Gingrich or Tancredo.
     
  7. saturneptune

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    Which means very little since the democratic nominee with carry Oregon, as usual.
     
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    Sure will, but my political contributions will still help overall.
     
  9. LeBuick

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    Was Osama born in the States? I thought he was an import.
     
  10. LeBuick

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    I guess his Mom is from Kansas but his Dad is from Kenya. I ran into this funny thought while looking up his stats... I thought this was funny.

    http://www.cafepress.com/bobmccarty/1729633

    NEWS RELEASE Chicago -- It’s official! Illinois Sen. Barack Obama and Al-Qaeda Leader Osama Bin Laden announced today they will seek the Democratic Party’s 2008 presidential nomination. Obama, the junior senator from the state of Illinois who was elected only two years ago, told supporters gathered outside a southside Chicago mosque that he had been persuaded to break a promise he made to voters two years ago in order to “serve the greater good”. “While I realize that I’ve only served in Washington for two years, the people of Chicago deserve to have a louder, stronger voice in Washington,” the 45-year-old son of an East African immigrant explained, “and by serving in the White House, I will be able to provide them — and the rest of America — with that strong voice.” When asked why he picked the world’s most-wanted terrorist — a man who is not even an American citizen – as his running mate, Obama was quick to respond. “The American people are a forgiving lot, and I think they will welcome this man, with open arms, to serve as the nation’s vice president,” he explained. “In exchange, Sheik Bin Laden has promised me that he will stop the unprovoked attacks on this country by his Al-Qaeda followers in this country and around the world. ”That promise,” he continued, “means that my Administration will accomplish on Day One something that the Republicans were not able to accomplish since 9/11.” Though Bin Laden was unable to be present during the official launch of the Obama-Osama campaign, his Illinois running mate said he had dispatched a messenger to Eastern Pakistan to deliver campaign talking points to the man whose face is familiar to all as a result of his terror-related notoriety. Within 10 days, Obama said, he expected his running mate to release the first of many issue-oriented videos via the Al-Jazeera news agency. Those videos will reportedly target so-called swing voters in the key states of Iowa and New Hampshire. Copyright © 2006 Bob McCarty, L.L.C. All rights reserved. www.BobMcCarty.com
     
  11. Joseph_Botwinick

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    He is more of a neocon in that he does support winning the war on terror unlike Ron Paul and all the other isolationists who want us to cut and run and lose the war like whe did in Vietnam.

    Joseph Botwinick
     
  12. LeBuick

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    How do we know when we won the war in Iraq? What is an acceptable outcome that will let america leave with honor?
     
  13. KenH

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    Support of defending the United States does not make one a neo-con.
     
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    Support of spreading democracy in order to defend the United States does.

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    The Neo-Cons preach American world supremacy. Talking about spreading Democracy just makes it seem more acceptable back home.
     
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    Well, the Democrats are stuck with Hillary and maybe that empty head Osama Obama.

    I think that Giuliani is the only winner for the GOP. I would never vote for McCain. The problem is that the Bush has no successor and that the Democrats thumped the GOP this month. So someone has to rebuild the party and win the White House or else we will have to cut and run from the war against terror and the war in Iraq and we will have to endure the recession that will be caused by the Democrat tax increases as liberals continue to assault all American institutions, especially Fundamentalists and Evangelical churches.
     
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    Liberals preach the rhetoric of the terrorists and hate America and democracy, and then call it patriotic to make it seem more acceptable back home. The only good news for them is bad news for America, Israel, and Democracy. The only way there would be American world supremecy is if democracy were spread around the world.

    Joseph Botwinick
     
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    This is already in the works with the current commission of isolationists losers running the commision on the war. Carter, Bush Sr. and Clinton are now in charge of the country.

    Joseph Botwinick
     
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    No, it doesn't. My agreeing with the Pope that Jesus Christ is the Son of God does not make me a Roman Catholic.
     
  20. poncho

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    Maybe you haven't noticed this yet but the USA and Israel are two seperate nations Joseph. Democracy has always been a bad idea, and "spreading it" by asking U.S. forces to invade and destabilize sovereign nations at Israel's request is the very definition of insanity. Now you can deny all of this of course, it's easy...just discount all the very well documented evidence as something other than what it is. You're used to that by now so it shouldn't be a problem. :smilewinkgrin:
     
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