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Tattoos' for Kids

Discussion in '2003 Archive' started by Gib, Mar 9, 2003.

  1. Gib

    Gib Active Member

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    I read the thread from February about the tattoo issue.

    My concern is that I have noticed that many churches will use temporary tattoos' at children's events. My own church had a Fall Festival and plastered the fake tattoos' on anyone that wanted one.

    We had a man visit our church who was heavily tattooed. Many in the church gawked at him like he was a double headed chicken. After church many commented on his tattoos'. Nothing positive.

    The same gawkers and talkers were the same ones applying the tattoos'. They wouldn't give out candy cigarettes because cigs are bad for you. Why would they gladly use temporary tattoos'?

    My son got a tattoo sticker at the arcade. I let him put it on. He instantly turned into Mr. T. He said he can't wait to get old enough to get a real one. I brought this up in conversation with the children's leaders at the church. I was told they are harmless fun. What do you think?
     
  2. Gina B

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    I see no difference between wearing a temporary tattoo and wearing makeup.
    Gina
     
  3. Mike McK

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    When your son tattoos "love" and "hate" on his knuckles like Robert Mitchum in "Night of the Hunter" then I'd worry.

    Until then, it's not a big deal.
     
  4. Ken Rhoades

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    It is a good point to ask about, is it OK to take on a temp tattoo? I have even wondered about getting a real one at one time, like a brand for Jesus! But you know as I talked to people with tattoo's I found two types of people with tattoo's one was very carnal selfish and the other was very sad that they ever did anything like that to the skin God blessed them with. When children get all the violent looking temp tattoo's, the first think you see is a change (almost a possession like) violent activity, pushing poking and filthy talk are more free. You see it in the eyes. Do we want our children to connect will great role models like the bad news bears or the roll call of the WWF or what ever they call it now? Or pro Basketball players that dress in drag or great pro baseball players that spit on umpires and wonderful foot ball pros that do women under garment adds? Or the women who sport glamor tattoo's in places that should never be seen in public? I think the best answer is no.

    Ken ><KJV>
     
  5. SaggyWoman

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    We do fake tatoos here, but God forbid the person that gawks or does the negative on those who are tatooed. What a judgement call that they ought to leave well enough alone.
     
  6. KeeperOfMyHome

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    I'm with you, Gib! I won't allow my children to put on the fake tattos any longer for the exact reason that you mentioned! If I don't want them to have the real thing, if I teach them that I believe it is wrong to treat your body in such a way, why would I let them have a fake one? It's like putting temptation in their path.

    Julia
     
  7. Gib

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    I'm not worried about my son getting a tattoo. My issue is not whether a tattoo is wrong or not. My issue is:

    For Children

    Temporary tattoos'............accepted as harmless
    Praise Music in Choir.......accepted as "Oh they're so cute"
    Play outside during services.........."They can't sit still that long"
    Hug and kiss.................."Oh they're so cute"

    Now They're Youth

    Temporary tattos'...........They want the real ones
    Praise Music in Choir......The adults say "Why is that music so loud?"
    Services.................They want to know why they can't go outside
    Hug and kiss..............They really want to

    Adult way of thinking

    Tattoos'.....................Unacceptable
    Praise Music................."Not in our church"
    Services....................."Why can't those teenagers behave?"
    Hug and kiss..................It's a married thing, not a youth thing

    For the church as a whole; why do we introduce things to our kids in the ministry of children that we don't want or don't find acceptable as teenagers and adults. Children are very impressionable. Our 3rd and 4th graders ask why they sing praise music in children's choir and not in "big church".
     
  8. Su Wei

    Su Wei Active Member
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    There's a verse i know of that sounds alot like tatooing:

    Leviticus 19:28 Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the LORD.
     
  9. I Am Blessed 24

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    If you don't correct Little Johnny when he scribbles on the walls at home...he may move on to scribbling graffiti on public buildings when he gets older.

    I would not let a child drink soda pop out of something that was made to look like a beer bottle.

    I would not give a child a candy cigarette.

    I would not give a child a temporary tattoo.

    When you give a child something like that you are sending them the signal that it is okay for them to get the real thing later in life.

    I have not met a Christian yet that did not wish they had never gotten a tattoo.

    JMO
    Sue
     
  10. Karen

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    Yes, to me it is a lot bigger issue that an apparently non-Christian came to church and all everybody did was "gawk" at him and talk about him. How sad!

    Karen
     
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    Those who gwak and make not positive statements about someone else, no matter what it is, like tattoos, is makeinga judgement aboiut soemthinge/someoen thay know nothing about. Seems their the ones in sin. I've know several godly men who were saved later in life and had gotten amny tattos when younger. One in particular was saved at 28, was in the navy during WWII and had a lot of tattos. No one gawked, or said anything bad.
     
  12. Johnv

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    I see no difference between "temporary tattoes" and face painting that is done at carnivals.

    I've also allowed my girls to get henna tattoed, since they're temporary. Alas, they're also pricey.

    Bottom line is, temporary tattoos aren't tattoos. They're drawings that wear off.
     
  13. Ben W

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    I would put it to you that if tatoos and temporary tatoos are bad, then having your ears pierced would be also? How many made a judgement on the chap with tattoos with earrings inserted?
     
  14. I Am Blessed 24

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    You can remove piercings and two weeks later the hole will be closed up.

    Once you get a tattoo...you live with it for life.

    I have seen many teens who got "their first love's" name tattooed on their arm and now "their real love" will have to live with it the rest of her life.

    I have also seen many men who got tattooed when they were in the military; then they got saved and wished they could undo it. (my husband being one of these)

    I am not saying it is wrong to have a tattoo, and I certainly would not judge anyone who has one. That doesn't happen to be a conviction of mine, only a personal preference.

    What I am saying is that when people grow older, (especially if they get saved), they are sorry they have a tattoo; but now they are stuck with it.

    Most tattoos are gotten when people are older teens or young adults. How many things did you do at that age that you regret and wish you could undo?

    JMO
    Sue
     
  15. Living by Faith

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    Last year my now 8 year old son came home and had recieved a kid tattoo from some kid. He told me he was gonna through it away because he felt God didn't want him to put it on beause he had heard the Pastor preach against them. Billy told me he saw no difference in a kid one and a grown up one except the age of the person wearring it.
    At June camp a wonderful preacher preached God forgives your sins but the scar remains.Tattoos and piercings are like scars from the pit God delivered us from. He urged kids not to get the scars he said "Just because God can delivery you out doesn't mean you need to jump in the pit." That has stayed with me. We all bear scars but we need to encourage kids not to make the same ones we carry.
    Also a few bible verses that help me keep out of trouble are...
    I Thess 5:22 Abstain from all APPEARANCE of EVIL.
    Gal 6:7 Be not decieved; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he reap.
    Prov 14:16 A wise man feareth and departeth from evil: but the fool rageth, and is confident.
    IJohn 1:5 This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light,and in him is no darkness at all.
    Isaiah 55:8-9 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the Lord. 9: For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.
    Just a few that govern my thinking. God's standard is higher, I ask my self and pray is this God's way or Jeanne's way if its mine I drop it like a hot potato! Everything I do and say plants a seed what kind of friut will I bare with this act. Will I glorify the Son,Father, and Holy Ghost or not.
    Jeanne
     
  16. SaggyWoman

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    I don't have a tattoo.

    I doubt I will ever get one.

    My ears are pierced. I got that done when I was 18. I don't regret it.

    I doubt I get anything else peirced.

    But far be it from me to judge anyone who has peircings or tattoos.
     
  17. jenclowes

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    I guess I'm way too liberal. I don't have any problem with tatoos on adults or children. I've told my sons,(my daughter is too young still) that when they are old enough and can pay for it themselves they can do whatever. Hopefully, by then, I will have instilled in them decency and good values. I remind them, when they mention tatoos, that whatever they do, it will remain with them forever, and to make sure it is something that will not embarrass them later in life.
    Hopefully they will remember all that I do and say now, and it will stick with them later on when they are tempted to tatoo or pierce themselves as adults. [​IMG]
     
  18. Gavin

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    Dear Friends,

    Tattoos are blood covenant markings linking the soul to the identity represented on the tatoo. All these body piercings, tattoos, brandings, studdings and such are efforts by human souls to make blood covenant connection, "unto death do we part". This is a deep and God given desire. We are creatures made for devotion. Inside us is an inner emptiness that only the infilling of the Spirit of Christ can satisfy.

    Christians are gettings tattooed, marked, studded, branded, ringed etc. because their relationship with Christ, (which is a blood covenant relationship), is not established in any meaningful way. So they seek substitutes in other spurious ways. They cannot even tell you why they are doing it.

    If we do not respond to this challenge in the proper way and take Christians deeper into Christ, into "blood covenant Christianity" we shall continue to see all our children tattooed, studded, branded, ringed and marked. And we will be of all people most miserable. Because we won't be able to do a thing about it.

    Here is an article leading Christians into an understanding of blood covenant Christianity. Only true and faithful brides know.

    http://endtimepilgrim.org/bloodcove.htm

    A search by Google will show that this author is about the only person on the planet writing about these blood covenant Christianity. This is "cutting edge" Christianity. Even our ministers when asked about "blood covenant" and "blood covenant Christianity" don't have a clue what you are talking about. It is central to our faith but religion has been so watered down in the Laodicean church we have today that we don't even recognise true and faithful Christianity when we run into it. But we soon shall.

    Blessings to all,

    Gavin
    http://endtimepilgrim.org
     
  19. Ken Rhoades

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    Yes, to me it is a lot bigger issue that an apparently non-Christian came to church and all everybody did was "gawk" at him and talk about him. How sad!

    Karen
    </font>[/QUOTE]I think that we have to love people who come in out of the cold, before the Lord takes the Church out I am sure that we will see people who are very damaged by the cost of sin (James 4:17) for some of us we can not hid the effect of our need of grace from God. For us who can hid our needy state, we need to make known the needful effect of grace to us and offer the same loving reception to restore one into the body of Christ. This is not and easy task, when we make our children act out a world habit that has become such a mark against a life for Christ - it hurt the ones most in need of restoration. In this last day we will see men that have been so messed up by this that they have permeant alterations on the flesh to become like women - and hit the wall hard. They will need love and restoration also, just like us. It is not easy as we sit in the pew to see that need, that is why we need to get back to the streets and win the Lost for Christ. At work I find more messed up people that were messed up because of the Church playing patty cake with the lust of the flesh. We need to wake up and smell the coffee, and get back to work as a hope to a lost world.
     
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