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Teach your children to question authority at Mcdonalds

Discussion in '2005 Archive' started by ASLANSPAL, Nov 10, 2005.

  1. Bunyon

    Bunyon New Member

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    "I thought that the reason parents homeschool is that their children will not experience the "real world" that the public school children experience. So how are young people taught to deal with the real world?"------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Do you have a porblem with homeshoolers. I am not aware of responsible home schoolers trying to isolate their children from the real world. That would be a mistake. However, you don't have to let your children go into the real world unprepared at to early of an age without proper preperation. And you don't have to let the world tell your children anything it wants anytime it wants or define right and wrong for your children. That is the point of homeschooling besides it being a better education usually. But we will never her the end of people trying to suggest that homeschoolers are irresponsible parents who are afraid of the real world and want to hide them in the closet. But it does not hold up to scrutiny. But I guess you don't see any problems with the direction of public education. Most kids are with their schools and teachers more than they are with their parents and you don't think the schools have to answere for lack of good knowledge and judgement at all?

    "Can I have some of what you're on?"--------------------------------------------------------------

    The attempt to cause the calf. schools to teach gay tolerance in every calss and subject was national news and of public record. It is unfortunant that you would say such a thing without checking your facts first. If you wont some facts, all you have to do is not be to lazy to checkt the facts out, cause that is all I am on is the facts.
     
  2. NateT

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    Well I read an article here in the Louisville Courier Journal about a month ago (maybe 6 weeks now) that discussed the case that was on primetime this weekend. Let me say this, there have been something like 30 - 40 of these cases. It was not just McDonalds, but Hardees, Taco Bell, Burger King, Applebees and other resteraunts.

    The article was well articulated and said one reason they thought the man preyed on fast food and food service people is that they are condition to take orders from their superiors. In each case, the on duty asst. manager was told the general manager was on the other line. He usually knew the person by name.

    I am not execusing the behavior, but this man that called in was VERY WELL versed in the organization of each place he called. Not only who was working, but who their boss was, who the regional manager was etc.

    Additionally, the article said that a lot of the information was not made known because the food service industry does not talk to each other. They fear each other, so they didn't want to let anyone know this happened to them.
     
  3. Daisy

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    The schools teach respect for authority. That girl learned it all too well.

    On the upside, this girl will soon have several hundred thousand dollars in compensation.
     
  4. Bunyon

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    The school and government and system becomes the ultimate authority, that is the problem.
     
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    If you think I have a problem because of that statement and question, then you must be receiving information from unreliable sources.

    I asked a simple question based on what I have read from homeschoolers.

    You jumped from that to I don't see any problem with the direction of public schools.

    All I wanted was an explanation of which it is.
    Perhaps I should have asked the question," Are homeschoolers being protected from the real world?" because apparently you do not approve of the public school real world.
     
  6. Bunyon

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    No offense was intended. You are aware of the attitudes of many who oppose homeschooling or think it substandard. Mostly they cite lack of socialization and interaction. They say without going to public schools the children miss out on these thing and are lacking when it comes to the getting along in the real world. Your comment seemed to echo this sentiment. So that is what I question. How do you feel about homeschooling as a public educator.

    Yes I do feel public education has be coopted by some very liberal and left wing intrest. This does not reflect badly on individual teachers, but I do not believe their virsion of the real world and their world view are reflective of our judeo-christian heritage and is in opposisition to the direction of our Forefather vision and the vision of public education when it started.
     
  7. Johnv

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    This is not exclusive to public education. It's equally rampant in private education. My wife is a teacher in a Christian school, and has for years noted the hypocrisy of parents who blame public education for something rather than blaming themselves. They then put their children in private schools, and what do you know, the problem persists, because the parent is failing to parent.

    Anyhoo, what this has to do with the OP is beyond me. Joseph is right. If parents teach common sense, then it would be a different issue.

    The fact that this has happenned several times successfully, and is not just an isolated incident, does indeed suggest that this person is so convincing that a person talking to him will have no reason to question his credibility. I'm not saying that the manager who took the phone call is completely guiltless, but it's clear that the manager is a victim to some extent. This person is targeting the person whom he calls (as well as the strip search victim).
     
  8. Bunyon

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    "because the parent is failing to parent..........."

    It does always boil down to this doesn't it?

    It is my fault we are taking about public education. I made a short comment at the beginning and was asked to explain, so here we are. [​IMG]
     
  9. Johnv

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    No harm done, B. I'm just trying to get back to the topic of the OP.
     
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