Texas Republicans Continue War on Women's Health

This way abortion can be protected without admitting to it.

 

That proved nothing. You need to prove women will have no health care without Planned parenthood.

 

We can see you are unread on this issue as this is not the truth.They do not want abortion, which has been attached quite dishonestly, to these other issues.

 

Right now the OP is about cutting funds to aBortion Incorporated better known as PP. Nothing about them is about parenthood if it were then they would seperate out the abortion portion as a seperate funding issue and the funds would go directly to planing parenthood. The are an abortion mill the DEM's want them funded, to that other groups will suffer such as the elderly and handicapped which the Republicans will gladly fund. The DEMs on the other hand would just as soon let the elderly and handicapped die rather than see PP go unfunded that is a shame. When are the DEM's going to be compassionate to the elderly and handicapped what was it 3 years no cost of living raise on their SS and SSI but they wanted money for PP. Seems like the Republicans being the majority in congress brought an increase "Monthly Social Security and Supplemental Security Income (SSI) benefits for more than 60 million Americans will increase 3.6 percent in 2012." Last increase was 2009 when the DEM's controlled both houses and Mr. Obama became president. The DEM's are against the elderly and handicapped look at their record, yet they want to point fingers at the Republicans for not wanting to fund abortion and liberals trying to force them too.


BTW are those on SS and SSI poor?

Yet the Republican congress gave them a Cost of Living Raise how is that against the poor?

Check the SS facts here:

http://www.ssa.gov/cola/

 

I agree. We are sick and tired of carrying you.

 

Uh no I'm not. The left has intentionally tied these other services to abortion so as to use it as a tool to keep providing for unlimited abortion.

No your not you are giving us DNC talking points which avoid the real issue here which is PP provides unlimited abortion for any reason the woman wants. We need not send them any money.

Informal fallacy here.

 

For all, but especially for CTB - the withdrawn funding DOES NOT prevent Planned Parenthood from providing services in Texas. It means that Planned Parenthood will not be reimbursed for those services.

Understand fully what that means: If women's health care is important enough, Planned Parenthood will continue providing it -- free of charge, taking the cost out of their profit line.

If Planned Parenthood refuses to provide free health care, then how do you answer that?

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Now, let's look at CTB's hypothetical about ectopic pregnancies. First off, it's estimated that there are around 6 million pregancies each year. Of these, 64,000 may be an ectopic pregnancy (that's 1.1%, or one out of 94, for those that like statistics). How are ectopic pregnancies treated? About half of all ectopic pregnancies resolve without treatment (miscarriage). That now drops the percentage to .5%, or 1 in 188. If treatment is required, depending on how far into the pregnancy, drugs first; laparospic surgery under general anesthesthia; or emergency surgery if the fallopian tube has burst. Planned Parenthood can issue the drug if the condition is diagnosed early enough; it is unclear whether PP will perform the laparoscopic surgery, but seeing as it requires general anesthesia and a possible hospital stay, it's unlikely; and PP cannot perform the emergency procedure.

In other words, using ectopic pregnancy as an excuse to continue to reimburse Planned Parenthood requires that you ignore: that statistically, you won't see this situation (not saying it doesn't happen, just that it's rare); that reimbursing PP really only reimburses their purchase of the abortion drug; and that other programs, such as Medicare/Medicaid cover the cost of the surgical requirements which PP doesn't provide.

At this point, I expect CTB to not answer, as he usually disappears after being given statistics that don't support his personal world view.

 

BTW: as previously stated, typical ectopic pregnancies end in miscarriage. The typical abortion supporter argument is that these pregnancies can kill the mother; while they are serious, and this is a concern, the statistics again don't support the argument (WHO statistics show that ectopic pregnancies account for approximately 2.5% of maternal deaths world-wide; induced abortion, on the other hand, account for approximately 6.7%, more than twice that of ectopic pregnancies).

Not to mention that there are several cases of ectopic pregnancies going full term and resulting in live birth, with no harm to mother or baby.

 

There you have it. People like CTB are out of place here.

Freeloaders aren't welcome.

Abortion providers can stay away.

 

You are parroting the leftist line Crabtownboy and are wrong again as usual! Money is fungible. Any money given to Planned Parenthood will be used to fund abortions and that is a fact. It is also a fact that Margaret Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood, was a devotee of eugenics, just like Hitler. Of course Obama believed it was okay to kill "just born children" and fought against a bill prohibiting this practice in the Illinois Senate. So Crabtownboy you are in fine company!:tear::tear::tear:

 

This aborturary cannot be closed since it is a private organization.

 

You are making a typical argument used by Christians who support abortion, namely: I am against abortion BUT!!!!!!!!!!!

The following is taken from a website of the largest provider of abortion in the country.

http://www.plannedparenthood.org/health-topics/abortion/in-clinic-abortion-procedures-4359.asp

The sympathy of this abortionist just oozes from the above. "Give me $500 plus and I will kill your baby!" Murder for hire and Crabtownboy waxes sentimental over the plight of PP: "Unborn children, fetus is the preferred name by the abortionist, be damned, and their mothers!"

May God forgive any Christian who favors, condones, or supports abortion in any way. I have nothing but contempt for them! Unlike the pagans they have been exposed to the truth.

That being said, it is ironic that the Hippocratic Oath, a pagan oath, forbids Medical doctors from practicing abortion. I would point out than many reproductions of the Hippocratic Oath in this country remove the prohibition on abortion from the wording. I had the opportunity to point that out to a doctor some time back.

 

Please TCassidy, don't confuse Crabtownboy with the facts!