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Discussion in 'Bible Versions & Translations' started by Salty, Apr 19, 2021.

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  1. Salty

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    Most people who say they read the King James read the 1789, not the 1611.
     
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    Most people who say they read the King James read the 1789, not the 1611.
     
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    Reads like speaking in tongues!
     
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    Which edition would be the perfect one then. as hundreds of differences!
     
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    You can say that again!
     
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    Exactly - I wanted folks to see the difference
     
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    Characters and Contractions Used in Early Printed Books

    ¯ The macron. A horizontal stroke printed over a letter to indicate that the following letter or syllable (usually an n or m) has been omitted. For example, the is put for them. A curled macron (tilde) represents an omitted a. By this means, scribes and early printers often abbreviated a word so that their columns would be neatly justified.

    [​IMG][​IMG] The "Y" character, which came to be used to represent the runic "thorn" (þ - see above) was often used as an abbreviation for "th" in early printed books, and when it was used in this way it was normally printed with a superscript "e" or "t" as an abbreviation for "the" or "that."

    [​IMG] Up till about 1790 the "long s" was used for s at the beginning and in the middle of words. In Roman type the long s looks like an f with the cross-stroke on the left only, and in italic type it looks like a stretched round s.

    u v The "U" and "V" are not distinguished phonetically in early English spelling. The "U" character is used for both the v and u sound when it occurs in the middle of a word, and the "V" character is normally used for either sound at the beginning of a word.

    & The ampersand, often used for "and" in early books.

    e The silent "e" occurs much more often in early English spelling than it does now. It was often used by printers simply to expand the length of a word in order to justify their columns of type

    Changes in the English Language
    About 3/4 of the way down the page.
     
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    It's unusual to our eyes, but it's just early modern English. You ought to see John 3:16 in Old English. I'll see if I can find it.
     
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    Here's the Lord's Prayer [in Matthew] in Old English [about 1,000 or so years ago - maybe a little earlier].

    "Fæder ure þu þe eart on heofonum, Si þin nama gehalgod. to becume þin rice, gewurþe ðin willa, on eorðan swa swa on heofonum. urne gedæghwamlican hlaf syle us todæg, and forgyf us ure gyltas, swa swa we forgyfað urum gyltendum. and ne gelæd þu us on costnunge, ac alys us of yfele. soþlice"
     
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    The West Saxon Gospels are also on Archive.org, really worth looking at for those who are interested:
    Gospel of Matthew, page 22
     
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    Actually most people who read a KJV today read a post-1900 edition, not an edition 100% identical to the 1769 Oxford edition of the KJV. Changes and revisions continued to be made through the late 1700's and 1800's. There is now a reprint edition of an actual 1769 so that its text can be compared to present post-1900 editions and the 400 or so differences between them can be seen.
     
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    So when people say "We only believe in the 1611 King James Version........"

    I wonder if they really know what they are saying......
     
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    This is why should all switch to the Nkjv if want to keep the same style!
     
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    Still think Nkjv or a modernized Kjv would be better!
     
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    NKJV does the same as the NIV in Colossians 1:15.
     
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    Whats wrong with reading a Bible printed in 1611 or even earlier? Try it, you might like it!
     
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    Been saying that for years, they have no idea what they are talking about.
     
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    I find that the character that looks like an "f" used for a long "s" was still used until 1810 at least in Oxford KJV editions. Oxford editions of the KJV printed in 1804 and 1810 still used it. A Cambridge edition printed in 1795 still used it.
     
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    Would need to have the tongue interpreter present while it was being read in the church!
     
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