the attributes of god

Van, you never answered my question. Does God know all our thoughts? Yes or no?

If no, how do you know? And how does that not contradict the clear revelation of scripture which claims he does know our thoughts and motives?

If yes, then how can he not know what I recall about my own past, or what I recall about someone else's past?

 

You have to understand though that God existed outside time and space as we do..
As such, He sees all things as if they were being done right now, in present sense, so God does know everything that has and will be done, as we need it to come to pass in future, God sees it all in the present already... .

 

I know what God knows. He knows everything.

Psalms 139:1-8 O LORD, you have searched me, and known me. You know my downsitting and my uprising, you understand my thought afar off. You search out my path and my lying down, and are acquainted with all my ways. For there is not a word in my tongue, but, lo, O LORD, you know it altogether. You have hedged me behind and before, and laid your hand upon me. Such knowledge is too wonderful for me; it is high, I cannot attain unto it. Where shall I go from your Spirit? or where shall I flee from your presence? If I ascend up into heaven, you are there: if I make my bed in Sheol, behold, you are there.

How can God "choose" what to not know unless He first knows it??

 

We KNOW from Bible that God exists outside of His time/space creation, If he was in it, would be bound by physical laws, time etc

So he would Have to be outside time, so there IS no past future aspect to him!

 

When we become reactionary to extreme doctrines we ourselves become extreme as well. And nothing you have presented has supported your false doctrine contrary to your claim.

 

Just to clarify, no one denied that God remembers our sins no more. What you are doing is saying that the knowledge is gone, which isn't true. Even us humans don't have the knowledge removed from our brains. We may never remember, but the knowledge is still in our head. Have you ever had a situation that you never remember, but then someone says something that triggers your memory and you then remember. See, the knowledge was there, just it wasn't in your mind. God will never bring to mind our sins because they are as good as if they never happened. To say that God doesn't have the knowledge is to deny Scripture(that says that God knows everything...and nothing in the context limits the everything) and to read something into the text.

Actually, it didn't say that God didn't know that Abraham would be willing to kill Isaac. Again, adding to Scriptures.

 

Van do you have a reason for not answering anything I post?

 

Van, I am not a Calvinist but there is a need to reply to your post.
1. The phrase that God remembers our sin no more is: 1) anthropormorphic—God helping man to understand himself by using language characteristic of man to describe himself.
2) It is a metaphor, a figure of speech.
3) It is judicial. In our forgiveness God judicially removes our sins. He remembers them no more. He forgets about them. Realistically they will always be there for He is God and omniscient. But they will never be held to our account. He cannot go against His own attributes.

2. You say that Total Omniscience is a false doctrine. When all the world is against you and you are the only one that believes this way, it ought to tell you that you are the one that needs to take a step back and re-examine your position. All of orthodox Christianity has believed in Total Omniscience not only for the last 2,000 years, but since the time of Moses and before. It is a cardinal doctrine, and a basic attribute of our God—both OT and NT. It is not a false doctrine. I am sorry to say this, but if you do not believe in the Total Omniscience of our God, you do not believe in the true nature of who God is.

3. You say it is clearly demonstrated false in verse after verse. But you haven’t demonstrated Total Omniscience false. You have demonstrated your ability to reinterpret Scripture according to the way you think it should say, and avoid listening to others.

4. Why would God search our hearts, if he already knew them? For our benefit. He knew our thoughts before we were born. But he searches our thoughts for our own benefit. He knows what our prayers are before we pray them, but praying is not for God’s benefit, but ours. He loves us. He knows the number of hairs on our heads—all of our heads. He couldn’t have that ability unless he were omniscient.

5. God doesn’t exist in time. He exists outside of time. Time was created for man’s sake. God is eternal. Time only started with the creation of the world. Only when the world started revolving around its own axis did time start. One revolution is a day. It took seven 24 hour days to create the world. That is when time started. God lived before that time and will live after that time, or beyond the destruction of this world.

There are many verses that give us evidence of how God operates in eternity. I am not a Calvinist. But I can answer this for you. I don’t mean for this post to be long. You don’t seem to listen to my answers. In fact you don’t seem to listen to very many answers. Thus I am going to post this for you and the benefit of others, and close the thread. There doesn’t seem to be much point in simply repeating the same thing over and over again.