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The Betrayer

Discussion in 'Free-For-All Archives' started by Jude, Sep 27, 2003.

  1. Jude

    Jude <img src=/scott3.jpg>

    Jan 11, 2001
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    Matt. 26.14 Then one of the Twelve — the one called Judas Iscariot — went to the chief priests 15 and asked, “What are you willing to give me if I hand him over to you?” So they counted out for him thirty silver coins. 16 From then on Judas watched for an opportunity to hand him over.

    Matt. 26.47 While he was still speaking, Judas, one of the Twelve, arrived. With him was a large crowd armed with swords and clubs, sent from the chief priests and the elders of the people. 48 Now the betrayer had arranged a signal with them: “The one I kiss is the man; arrest him.” 49 Going at once to Jesus, Judas said, “Greetings, Rabbi!” and kissed him. 50 Jesus replied, “Friend, do what you came for.”

    Matt. 27.1 Early in the morning, all the chief priests and the elders of the people came to the decision to put Jesus to death. 2 They bound him, led him away and handed him over to Pilate, the governor. 3 When Judas, who had betrayed him, saw that Jesus was condemned, he was seized with remorse and returned the thirty silver coins to the chief priests and the elders. 4 “I have sinned,” he said, “for I have betrayed innocent blood.” “What is that to us?” they replied. “That’s your responsibility.” 5 So Judas threw the money into the temple and left. Then he went away and hanged himself.

    "How should we consider this character?(Judas). What should we feel about and for him? Disgust? Anger? Bitterness? Or are we warranted in feeling sorry for him, seeing him as a victim of circumstance, as one exploited by other, more sinister forces and as undeserving of his recorded fate? And what of God? Can there be a place in the heart of God for the one who handed his only Son over to be crucified? Tradition has not for the most part supposed it was so. Dante imaginatively invents for Judas's eternal destiny the lowest of all hells, a hell not of fire and brimstone but of cold and ice, designed for those swept not into sins of passion but into the cold, calculating sin of deliberate rejection of God's love. Can we concur with this assessment of Judas's situation?" Richard Bauckham/Trevor Hart
  2. liafailrock

    liafailrock Member
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    Jul 15, 2001
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    A lot of Christianity today seems to be concerned about personal salvation. As for me, I just let things up to the Lord--- by His grace we are called. With that being said (and letting things in God's hands), many fail to realize the significance of Judas. Judas represented a TYPE of Judah (the Jew) who rejected Christ. The other desciples, symbolic of the house of Israel, would accept Christ. You see, the Isrealites are more than just the Jews (or the tribe of Judah). They were exiled and became as Gentiles who would actually accept the gospel! So the seed of Abraham are not only in spirit, but in flesh as well prophecied to be purveyors of the gospel message later in history! But if this is not understood (or rejected or scorned) then many things in the Bible become an enigma indeed, including Judas, and we desire to so-call understand the Scriptures while rejecting the truth that enlightens us to it.
  3. Jude

    Jude <img src=/scott3.jpg>

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    Ballad of the Judas Tree

    In Hell their grew a Judas Tree
    Where Judas hanged and died
    Because he could not bear to see
    His Master crucified
    Our Lord descended into Hell
    And found His Judas there
    For ever hanging on the tree
    Grown from his own despair
    So Jesus cut his Judas down
    And took him in his arms
    "It was for this I came" He said
    "And not to do you harm
    My Father gave me twelve good men
    and all of them I kept
    Though one betrayed and one denied
    Some fled and others slept
    In three days' time I must return
    To make the others glad
    But first I had to come to Hell
    And share the death you had
    My tree will grow in place of yours
    It roots lie here as well
    There is no final victory
    Without this soul from hell"
    So when we all condemned him
    As of every traitor worst
    Remember that of all his men
    Our Lord forgave him first

    -D. Ruth Etchells