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The Called

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Van, May 28, 2022.

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    The exact phrase "the called" appears about 4 times in the NASB translation of the New Testament. The four verses are: Romans 1:6, 1 Corinthians 1:24, Jude 1:1 and Revelation 17:14. Sometimes the article "the" has been supplied so something in the context resulted in the translation choice. Other versions do not insert the article.

    What is the apparent commonality of these that were invited? The individuals in view have been chosen and saved, thus "the called" as interpreted refers to those transferred into Christ. Some translation also use the phrase in Romans 8:28, indicating the ones called according to His purpose have been set apart in Christ, rather just invited.

    The pattern is that several Greek words are used to indicate this transfer into Christ. Romans 6:3, 1 Corinthians 12:13 and Galatians 3:27 use the phrase "baptized into" to refer to the same divine action. In Colossians 1:13 we find "transferred." In Romans 6:5 those transferred into Christ have been "united" with Him.
    In Ephesians 2:5 those transferred have been made alive "together with Christ."

    Once this divine action of setting a person apart within Christ spiritually, the sanctification by the Spirit or the sanctifying work of the Spirit, they are regenerated and then sealed in Christ. As such they are said to be "in" Christ, or In Him or in the Beloved or in Jesus and we therefore find "the Called" all through the New Testament.
     
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    No Jesus did not! Scripture says many are called but few are chosen. Those chosen are set apart in Christ becoming "The Called" referring only to those transferred into Christ. As far as the use of "many" in Matthew 20:28, the many refers to everyone but the One. See 1 Timothy 2:6. Thus the many in this application refers to all humanity, those to be saved and those never to be saved, 2 Peter 2:1.
     
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    What do you mean no? More are called than are chosen. The chosen are all called. But not all the called are chosen. Christ died for the many, Matthew 20:28.
     
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    Agree!

    hoi polloi

    15 But not as the trespass, so also is the free gift. For if by the trespass of the one the many died, much more did the grace of God, and the gift by the grace of the one man, Jesus Christ, abound unto the many.
    19 For as through the one man`s disobedience the many were made sinners, even so through the obedience of the one shall the many be made righteous. Ro 5
     
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    I have explained this twice now. This is the last time. "The called" does not refer to "the invited." Your example refers to "the invited." "The called" refers, in the cited verses, to those who have been (1) invited, (2) chosen and (3) saved by being transferred into Christ spiritually.
     
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    The "many" refers to everyone except Christ. Thus He laid down His life as a ransom for "all." The claim that the many does not refer to everyone but Christ is unstudied nonsense. In Romans 5:19 "the many" were made sinners and in Romans 5:12, all mankind were sinners. Not very hard to understand!!
     
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    Ever wonder that if election is unconditional, as falsely claimed by some, why are many invited but few are chosen. It would read everyone invited was chosen if election were unconditional. :)
     
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    Consider G2822 - kletos, in Matthew 22:14 the Greek word meaning is invited, in Romans 1:1 the Greek word meaning is designated, and in Romans 1:7 the Greek word meaning is "transported into Christ." If each of the meanings of "Kletos" were translated unambiguously, God's message would become plain to that version's readers.
     
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    Everyone who is chosen and saved were "invited" it is the same word. Either dative or nominative. It would seem we understand this differently.
     
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    I'll tell you the same thing I point out to the hell fire damnation Calvinists, if ‘all men’ in v 12 means ‘all mankind’ so it does in v 18. You can’t cherry pick the text to make it fit in your box.

    12 Therefore, as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin; and so death passed unto all men, for that all sinned:--

    18 So then as through one trespass the judgment came unto all men to condemnation; even so through one act of righteousness the free gift came unto all men to justification of life. (all men now born innocent until they become guilty of their own accord due to the removal of Adam's transgression due to the ATONEMENT)

    Christ bought the whole field, but He particularly bought the treasure (the many/the elect) hidden in that field. Matthew 13:44
     
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    1) Words have a range of meanings.
    2) The Greek word translated called has three meanings.
    3. The Greek word G2822 is used to mean, invited, named, and transferred.
     
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    Oh really. He bought those never to be saved. Thus all in 1 Timothy 2:6 refers to all humanity, and not all kinds of people.
     
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    45 For even the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many.

    Mark 10:45
     
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    I see once again the implied claim that the many in Mark 10:45 does not refer to all humanity. However, a quick perusal of Romans 5:17-18 reveals this implication to be bogus.
    Romans 5:17-18 (NASB)
    For if by the offense of the one, death reigned through the one, much more will those who receive the abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness reign in life through the One, Jesus Christ. So then, as through one offense the result was condemnation to all mankind, so also through one act of righteousness the result was justification of life to all mankind. ​

    Note that "the many" refers to all mankind as far as condemnation, but "the many" only refers to those among "all mankind" who receive the gift of righteousness. The ransom for "the many" was to provide the means of salvation for all mankind, but only those chosen on the basis of credited faith receive the purchased gift.
     
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