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Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Forest, Feb 15, 2012.

  1. Forest

    Forest New Member

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    Does God call all mankind or just his elect?
     
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    If He called all mankind then all mankind would come.
     
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    Both are true, but the elect receive the effectual call. It is a call like the one Jesus employed outside the tomb of Lazarus.

    The whole world receives a call from God to repent but this call does not regenerate.
     
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    He called all mankind, but only a few answer the call.

    Like at BJ's and Sam's Club. They have all of those free samples of food on the weekends. It is offered freely to everyone that will accept it. But most dont want any.

    My point being, that just because man doesnt respond to God doesnt mean God doesnt make the offer.

    John
     
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    :thumbsup:
     
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    I apologize if this offends you but from my prospective, that concept of God makes Him very week & ineffective. He is either your Savior or He is not.
     
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    Apart from the bad analogy. How so?
     
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    Im sorry....but I am late for work.....perhaps someone else can explain it ...... I will check back in after hours & explain it further.
     
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    Many called, but few chosen. Seems to me the called were far many more than the chosen.
     
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    Those who are called and respond are the elect.
     
  11. Tom Butler

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    Romans 8 describes Christians as "The Called." Not just called, but The Called.
     
  12. Forest

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    God only calls his elect. All of the elect are the "many called". The few chosen are those that the Holy Spirit has opened their eyes to see the truth of what Christ accomplished on the cross. Matt 7:13-14 relates to this fact. God's elect go in both the wide gate and the strait gate. The elect that go in the wide gate are those who are believing their good works will save them eternally and those that go in the strait gate are those that the Holy Spirit has revieled the truth. (the few chosen, his visiable church). Rom 10 also is dealing with the same concept, the some of the elect going about to establish their own righteousness instead of submitting themselves unto the righteousness of God.
     
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    Yes, and God only calls the elect because all that is called are predestined, called, justified and glorified, Rom 8:30. If he called all mankind then allmankind would be predestinated, justified and glorified.
     
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    The whole world of mankind does not receive a call from God because all that arfe called are predestined, justified and glorified, Rom 8:30. God only chastens those that he loves and only calles his elect.
     
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    He does not call all mankind because all that he calls are predestinated, justified and glorified, Rom 8:30.
     
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    Matthew 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:

    The elect go through the wide gate to destruction? What???
     
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    Yes. Here's the scripture verse:
    Without exception, those he calls are justified.

    The ones he calls are those identified in Romans 8:28
     
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    God calls all, but not all use their free will to accept his offer. Not all use their free will to accept Christ, but Christ's death is for all who will respond and accept him as their Lord and Savior and live for him.
     
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    But what about Romans 8:30

    (Rom 8:30) and these whom He predestined, He also called; and these whom He called, He also justified; and these whom He justified, He also glorified.
     
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    So are you describing Cafeteria Christians then? Sounds that way to me:laugh:
     
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