The catholic church recants!

While "dark ages" does not have a technical meaning, the way it is thrown around to represent times of great tyranny and cruelty is not justified. The period of Bruno and Galileo was the renaissance. And I think the reason this was such a time of inquisition and torture and burning is because scientific inquiry was beginning to be established again, and it meant that people are not going to be blind followers of everything their authorities tell them. The Roman church would lose some of its power over all of Europe if people could successfully oppose it, so the church resolved that it would take all mesure necessary to destroy any such challenges. And it was the same problem for the new protestant churches, though in the opposing chronological direction. They were trying to get established, while the Roman church was trying to stay established. And any excuse could be used to that end; one of the worst being that if a church wanted the wealth and property of an heir or a widow, just accuse that person of witchcraft and take them to the torture chambers, give the tormenters their fun of raping, burning, mutilating, stretching, finally killing, and confiscate their property.

But "dark ages" refers to the times of no progress or any successful challenges. To central Europe, it was the times between the fall of Rome and Charlegmagne's empire, which rather quickly broke up into a new dark age after his death. To English speakers, dark ages is more specific. Following the 'flowering' of Anglo-Saxon culture in the 7th and 8th centuries, when writing was beginning to be encourages and the kingdoms were fairly stable, the Danes invaded and established settlements, "darkening" the lives of the English, and there was again continuous warring and death and burning the centers of learning, until Alfred the Great savd his southern kingdom and the Danes were forced to accept a truce. And then, of course, Anglo-Saxon and Viking cultures gradually melded.

So "dark ages" does not mean just the middle ages, and cetainly not the renaissance.

 

It most certainly is justified to describe the tyranny of Rome over the minds and lives of humanity during its tryanic rule over secular kings even through the renaissance. As a SPIRITUAL designation it is a perfect description of the DARKNESS of Roman Supersititious relgious non-sense enforced upon humanity with intense cruelty. Scientific advancement was equally stymied by this spiritual DARKNESS. Scientists were afraid of declaring any discovery that contradicted Roman dogma as they would end up being charged as "heretics" and killed or imprisoned by pious religion.

 

http://www.adherents.com/largecom/baptist_fewerSBC.html

Well that is just not really true is it, DHK. The Catholic Church is growing in membership. "The Southern Baptist Convention, the largest denomination after Catholics, lost 0.24 percent of its membership and now stands at 16.2 million". Baptists continue membership decline sharply when you figure in that the leadership of the SBC admits their figures are inflated by as much of a third. That is a fact here in the U.S. Facts are Facts, DHK. The proof is in the pews. In our parish it is standing room only at EVERY mass. Praise God!

http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/catholic_church_shows_robust_growth_in_u.s._membership_new

There are some Catholic Churches that have closed there doors because of poor attendance. The demographics where some parishes are located have changed so much that fewer Catholics live in an area that once supported healthy congregations. Also, some liberal Catholics churches are poorly attended just like your liberal Baptist churches.

 

Well, this 'moral minded Catholic' will stay put. The Catholic Church is growing and growing. You posted "Contrary to what some of our Catholics are claiming, RCC churches are closing their doors because of failing attendance", the fact is that is really deceptive.
I'll bet what ever church you are attending has plenty of empty pews! You fail to mention that the Catholic Church continues to grow in membership while the Baptist church is losing members. Wonder why you left those facts out!

Your seething hatred of Catholics does not go un-noticed.

 

There is no proof that he is guilty of anything and you have tried and convicted him. Sad

 

your comment is actually fulfilled in Bible prophecy... TWICE!

1) Matthew 24:37-39
But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 38For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, 39And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

2) Luke 18:8
I tell you that He will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall He find faith on the earth?

as false religion grows, true faith wanes... God is awesome!

 

your comment is actually fulfilled in Bible prophecy... TWICE!

1) Matthew 24:37-39
But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 38For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, 39And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

2) Luke 18:8
I tell you that He will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall He find faith on the earth?

as false religion grows, true faith wanes... God is awesome!

 

The Catholic "Church" is so full of it that it staggers the mind.

Thats very true, unfortunetly.

 

Has the Southern Baptist Convention ever "recant" the position many of its churches took on slavery doing the war between the states? No one is perfect and mistakes are made. So whats the big deal?

 

The abundance of the heart is expressed by your mouth - you always come to the defense of the RCC and always attack Baptists. - Why? Simply because YOUR CHURCH includes Rome and therefore you must defend her in order to defend your view of the church.

 

Bill, I hate to disappoint you, but we study our Bibles in Sunday School. It's a pretty neat concept, actually.


And yes....Southern Baptists apologized for how we treated blacks during the era of slavery & Jim Crow laws.

http://www.sbc.net/resolutions/amResolution.asp?ID=899

 

http://www.sbc.net/resolutions/amResolution.asp?ID=899


There you go.

 

Thank you. So the SBC recanted. We all make mistakes. Some people still believe in young earth as well as a geocentric universe.

 

No, sir, Thinkingstuff is simply saying 'ye who live in glass houses should not throw stones'.

 

The abundance of your heart is expressed by your mouth - you always support untruths rather than truths. And apply venom to every one who doesn't agree with you. I didn't defend the RCC I just showed how all christian churches makes mistakes. Big deal. I mean after all you're a dispensationalist. You'll have to live with that big mistake.

 

You have left the Catholic church but the Catholic church has not left your soteriology as you defend justification by works, deny the ordinances are symoblic in nature. There is no comparison between the error of salvation and the error of dispensationalism as the former affects one's personal salvation but the latter does not.

I believe that the covenant of grace has been in effect since the garden of Eden and there has been but one way of salvation, one gospel, one Savior from Genesis to Revelation. Not many dispensationalists would claim that. I do believe in the future salvation of Israel as a nation.