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Again, you did not answer a single one of my questions but only offered the same kind of commentary on those texts contained in your first response. hence, you simply repeated your commentary and avoided my questions ABOUT YOUR COMMENTARY!


Here are my questions to your response:

1. Tell me, what does not being a "extortioners, unjust, adulterers...I fast twice a week...give tithes" have anything to do with becoming a Jew or with ceremonial laws????

2. Tell me, what does confessing "Lord, Lord" and "in thy name" and "having done many wonderful works" have to do with becoming a Jew or ceremonial laws?

3. These are all "works" and many are obedience to the Ten commandments (adulterers) and thus "good" works and yet that did not save them, did not justify them and so how do you think they will save or justify you any more than them as they did them "in thy name" and confessing him as "Lord, Lord"?


Don't repeat the same commentary as it is your commentary that I am questioning and to repeat it is simply dodging the questions.

 

Point to any post you have made that shows you have provided answers to these three questions! If you cannot do that (and you can't) then it is you that is lying and the LACK of evidence speaks for itself.

 

Have a little honesty about yourself! You merely quoted TWO of my THREE questions but NEVER attempted to answer my question but merely repeated your commentary that was the very object of my question!

Let the readers judge who is lying here!


Here is my first question:

Originally Posted by The Biblicist
Tell me, what does not being a "extortioners, unjust, adulterers...I fast twice a week...give tithes" have anything to do with becoming a Jew or with ceremonial laws????

Here is your supposed answer:

The Pharisees would NOT repent. The Jews had the ceremonial law to make them clean before God..

Readers, I specifically asked Moriah what these things had to do with becoming a Jew as the three sins are all MORAL laws violated and fasting and tithing cannot possibly be regarded as "ceremonial" law!


Here is my second question:

2. Tell me, what does confessing "Lord, Lord" and "in thy name" and "having done many wonderful works" have to do with becoming a Jew or ceremonial laws?

Here is your response to my second question:

You are the one who brought us these scriptures that you do not understand. The scripture where Jesus says I never knew you; those are about people who would not stop sinning. Are you not angry with me for saying I give up sins.. - Moriah

You claimed that all these texts and you specified this text had nothing to do with anyone but Jews and the Jewish ceremonial laws! Claiming Jesus as "Lord, Lord" has only to do with Jews? Doing all "in thy name" has to do with the ceremonial law or becoming a Jew? What utter nonsense!

You did not answer my question but simply repeated your nonsensical commentary!


Here is my third question:

3. These are all "works" and many are obedience to the Ten commandments (adulterers) and thus "good" works and yet that did not save them, did not justify them and so how do you think they will save or justify you any more than them as they did them "in thy name" and confessing him as "Lord, Lord"?


Here is your response:

We have to repent before we are saved. You did not, just as the Pharisees did not.
We are to stop sinning. You however speak against such a thing. - Moriah


Readers, how does Moriah's response even remotely address that question?


So again, Please answer my questions instead of repeating your commentary to which my questions were addressed in the first place!

 

Do you understand that you are simply repeating your initial commentary on those verses I cited? Repeating over and over again the very same thing!

I did not ask you to repeat your commentary. Repeating your commentary is merely avoiding my questions altogether!

Your commentary is rediculous! It is rediculous to say that such things as calling Jesus "Lord, Lord" has to do with becoming a Jew or with ceremonial washings and sacrifices! Rediculous!

It is rediculous to say that "in thy name.....have we not done many wonderful things" has to do with becoming a Jew or with ceremonial washings or sacrifices! Rediculous!

It is rediculous to say that denying to be "unjust" or being an "adulterer" or an "extortioner" has to do with becoming a Jew or with ceremonial washings or sacrifices! Rediculous!

All these things are GOOD WORKS that relate to the MORAL LAW of God and not merely things that apply to a Jew and they have absolutely nothing to do with sacrifices or the ceremonial law! That is just a plain lie!

Matthew 7:21-23 is set at Judgement day before the judgement seat and is not restricted to being a Jew or things that have to do with the ceremonial laws, sacrifices but with the claim of acknowleging Christ as Lord in addition to GOOD WORKS for entrance into heaven!

Your problem is that the scriptues deny that a person is saved by "works" but is justified "without works" and so you are forced to interpet all these passages not as "good works" but as Jewish ceremonialisms, sacricifes or becoming a Jew which is big fat lie of the Devil as they are no such thing but they are GOOD WORKS that have to with the MORAL LAW of God.

 

Justifying "faith" cannot possibly be defined as "faithfulness to God's commandments" or "keeping the commandments of God" as Romans 4:18-21 utterly denies that interpretation of "faith" that justifies.

So "believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved..." does not mean "keep His commandments and thou shalt be saved."

 

I can only conclude one of four things. (1) I have not simplified my questions sufficiently for you to understand or (2) You are either too stupid to understand what I am saying no matter how simple I break it down or (3) you are intentionally being deceptive or (4) you are spiritually blinded by Satan and cannot see, understand or perceive spiritual things at all.

 

you cannot understand a simple question and you are trying to tell me what to do?:laugh:

I think you understood my questions completely but are being coy and deceptive because if you answered my questions it would expose your interpretations of those texts to be absolute foolishness as well as the kind of salvation you embrace.

It is foolish to interpret those texts to be about becoming a Jew or with ceremonial ordinances, cleansings, etc. because EVERY ITEM LISTED belongs to the MORAL LAW not the to ceremonial laws, or how to become a Jew, etc. ("adulterer" "unjust" "Lord, Lord" "in thy name...have done many wonderful works" "extortioner" etc.).

Just because those in the texts are Jews does not make the criticism restricted to Judaism. In order to restrict it to Jews it would have to be about things that only Jews could violate. It is foolish to say that "adultery" and "unjust" and "extortion" and confessing Jesus as "Lord, Lord....in thy name...have we not done many wonderful works" are things that only characterize Judaism - foolish - as they are all MORAL characteristics that cannot be restricted to any race or any religion.

 

THAT is the problem! My questions were never about the scriptures I quoted but about the comments you made on those scriptures and yet you think you are answering my question by merely repeating the same comments over and over again! My questions challenge your comments and just repeating your comments does not answer my questions.

Asking me to reread your comments is like asking a painter asking a man who has spotted errors in a portrait to simply take another look at the portrait!!! Looking again at the portrait does not change the errors nor addiress the question about the errors! That is precisely how you are responding!

 

you seriously need to reread what I wrote in the following two paragraphs:

It is foolish to interpret those texts to be about becoming a Jew or with ceremonial ordinances, cleansings, etc. because EVERY ITEM LISTED belongs to the MORAL LAW not the to ceremonial laws, or how to become a Jew, etc. ("adulterer" "unjust" "Lord, Lord" "in thy name...have done many wonderful works" "extortioner" etc.).

Just because those in the texts are Jews does not make the criticism restricted to Judaism. In order to restrict it to Jews it would have to be about things that only Jews could violate. It is foolish to say that "adultery" and "unjust" and "extortion" and confessing Jesus as "Lord, Lord....in thy name...have we not done many wonderful works" are things that only characterize Judaism - foolish - as they are all MORAL characteristics that cannot be restricted to any race or any religion.


Show me that you even comprehend what I said in the first paragraph above by paraphrasing it in your own words.

Show me that you understand what I said in the second paragraph above by paraphrasing it in your own words.

 

you are confusing the threads. Go to the other thread where you first asked this question and you will find I have answered TWICE already. The second time I broke my answer down in simple words just for you.

 

It is becoming quite clear to me that you are an imposter and simply trying to cause havoc.

You have repeatedly attacked DHK and myself. I think I know who you really are and I will ask that your IPS address be checked to see.