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The dragon!

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by bruren777, Aug 28, 2005.

  1. bruren777

    bruren777 New Member

    Apr 28, 2005
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    Isaiah 51:9,Awake, awake, put on strength, o arm of the Lord; awake as in the days of old, the generations of long ago. Was it not thou who cut Rahab in pieces, Who pierced the dragon ?.NASB

    The Rahab mentioned here is not the prostitute, rather, a monster of the sea with demonic strength. It seems that it is satan, as in Isaiah 51:9, it also mentions the dragon. So satan is also known as rahab. When I first read that Scripture I was confused until I researched a little further.

    Revelation 20:2, And he lay hold of the dragon, the serpent of old, who is the devil and satan, and bound him for a thousand years. NASB

    Here again, satan is refered to as the dragon.

    An aunt of one of daughters in law gave our grandson a toy dragon. I asked my daughter in law if she knew that satan is refered to as the dragon. She told me she did, I told her she should get rid of it. the last time I was at my sons home the dragon was still there.

    I decided not to mention it as I felt that the Holy Spirit would convict them to get rid of the dragon.
  2. Gold Dragon

    Gold Dragon Well-Known Member

    Feb 24, 2005
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    Non Baptist Christian
    Other things associated with Satan are serpents, kings, princes and stars.
  3. Marcia

    Marcia Active Member

    May 12, 2004
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    Just because Satan is referred to as a dragon in some passages in the Bible does not mean all dragons (who are mythical anyway) are Satan. There is nothing wrong with a toy dragon for a child, imo.

    Satan took on the guise of a serpent in Genesis, but serpents themselves are not evil.
  4. Joseph_Botwinick

    Joseph_Botwinick <img src=/532.jpg>Banned

    Nov 12, 2000
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    I disagree. :D

    Joseph Botwinick
  5. TexasSky

    TexasSky Guest

    Satan takes the look of many things.
    I think that by insisting your grandson get rid of the dragon, you assign an importance to it that might not otherwise be there.

    I think Christians do that to a lot of things.

    My children used to enjoy the cosume parties associated with Halloween. They never, for one moment, thought of it as anything more than dressing up and getting candy until a child in the neighborhood said, "We don't worship Satan at OUR house," when they learned we were having a Halloween Costume party. My response was, "We don't at our house either, and we don't give Satan enough attention to let him frighten us out of having a party with Christian friends either." The next year, every Christian on our block decorated and dressed up for Halloween, and we ended up handing out scripture candy, bibles and other things, turning the whole thing into a witness for Christ.

    Don't make a toy more than a toy by making it something that your grandson has to avoid.
  6. Johnv

    Johnv New Member

    Oct 24, 2001
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    The word in Hebrew here is tanniyn, whose meaning (serpent, whale, monster, dragon) is determined by context. Here the context is referring to a monster or beast in general. Rahab here referrs to the human embodiment of sinful pride (the word "rahab" means prideful). Ther verse is referring to using the strength of the Lord to defeat the beast that is sinful pride.

    Here the word is drakon, which literally means dragon, but it referrs to the word ophis, which means malicious cunning, like that of a snake on the hunt. It is referring to Satan, the Devil, being cunning and malicious like a snake hunting for prey. In fact, here it referrs to a specific kind of dragon.
    I think you're barking up the wrong tree. A dragon is a mythical animal, and scripture does not refer to dragons in general as being a symbol of Satan. Rather, it uses the dragon only specific areas to allegorize a trait of Satan. I don't think you have anything to worry about when it comes to simple toy dragon.

    Or perhaps the Holy Spirit will convict you to not see a toy as being a satanic symbol. I myself probably would have mentioned the symbolic occurrence in scripture in passing, but would have refreained from instucting your daughter-in-law to get rid of it. Her house, her rules. Grandparents have advisory rights, but no votng rights. And the advisory rights are revokable by the parents.

    My son had a stuffed "Mushu", the dragon from the Disney Film "Mulan". Not satanic in the least.