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  1. Chemnitz

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    Eliyahu, I can see one group of known liars in your listing of sources. "Dial-the-Truth" (www.av1611.org) has knowingly altered lyrics to get them to say what they wish in order to make them look incriminating.

    I have no reason to change from using Easter because in modern parlance it is synonymous with resurrection, not some pagan god.
     
    #21 Chemnitz, Apr 10, 2006
  2. Jarthur001

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    Is the resurrestion day in may this year?
     
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  3. Jim1999

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    Ascension Day is May 25th.

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
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  4. Jarthur001

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    That's right...Easter is in April

    April-- Aphrodite's month

    Old English April(is)
    Latin Aprilis
    Etruscan Apru
    Greek Aphro, short for Aphrodite.


    Aphrodite is the Greek goddess of love and beauty. She is identified with the Roman goddess Venus.

    I wonder if its ok to use this word (April)...or should we remove it because of the way others have used it? Should ladies that have the name April change their name?

    This could get very silly if we let it. The fact is everything can be linked to some kinda sin. This is a sinful world. A lady with the name April can be a very Godly Lady if she follows God. She is not doomed to go wrong, because of that name.

    Folks...a day is what YOU make of it. I remember in the 70s that some Churches took their rainbow off of their Church logo, because of the Rainbow people. God was the one that made the rainbow...it was the rainbow people that MADE it stand for bad things. But i...or you...or any one...any church can place their only value on the rainbow...and use it in a good way

    Easter is what YOU make of it. If you fear it...you give it to the devil. The day should not be worshipped..that is wrong. But to set aside a day..when we all can remember what HE did for us...there is nothing wrong with this. If you need to change the name to your liking...so be it. But do not live in fear of a day...because of what others have done with it.
     
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  5. wopik

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    The Bible is the source for all things Christian.

    Does the Bible mention Easter? Yes.

    Notice Acts 12:1. King Herod began to persecute the Church, culminating
    in the brutal death of the apostle James by sword. This pleased the Jews so
    much that the apostle Peter was also taken prisoner by Herod. The plan was to
    later deliver him to the Jews.

    Verse 3 says, “Then were the days of unleavened
    bread.”


    The New Testament Church was observing these feast days described
    in Leviticus 23.


    Now read verse 4: “And when he [Herod] had apprehended
    him, he put him in prison, and delivered him to four quaternions [sixteen] of
    soldiers to keep him; intending after Easter to bring him forth to the people.”


    Is this Bible authority for Easter?

    This passage is not talking about Easter. How do we know?

    The word translated Easter is the Greek word pascha (derived from the Hebrew word
    pesach; there is no original Greek word for Passover), and it has only one
    meaning. It always means Passover — it can never mean Easter!


    http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:UsqrQE8I2RoJ:www.thercg.org/books/ttooe.pdf+meet+with+your+sagacities+and+i+myself&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=11"
     
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  6. Eliyahu

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    Do we celebrate the Aphrodite's month? Do we gather together in the name of Aphrodite ?
    Yes, there can be problems even with Sunday or Saturday. You can find the big difference in the degree of perversion. God is Judge.
     
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  7. Jim1999

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    Oh no! The curse is on me for using the evil word...*whisper* Easter..........My page has gone too wide to read. Funny, it is only tis thread....I re-pant, I re-pant!

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
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  8. Chemnitz

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    Bit of a double standard isn't it? Considering none who celebrate Easter are gathering in the name of ishtar or any other pagan goddess you can think of.
     
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    Just thought I'd drop my daily HAPPY EASTER in this thread...
     
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  10. Jim1999

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    Yes, Happy Easter, rbell.

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
    #30 Jim1999, Apr 11, 2006
  11. Eliyahu

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    Happy Easter? Sounds like Happy Ishtar ! She may be happy with her children !
     
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  12. Linda64

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    From Way of Life Encyclopedia

    EASTER

    An occasion observed by many Christians commemorating the resurrection of Christ. It is observed on the Sunday immediately after the first full moon that occurs on or after March 21. Originally Easter was a pagan holiday in the name of the goddess of spring, but it was "Christianized" by the Catholic Church and adapted to the remembrance of Christ's resurrection. Sunrise services are adaptations of the ancient worship of the sun.

    The entire Easter celebration is extra-biblical. "Good Friday," which is the supposed day that Christ died, is fictitious in that Christ could not have died on Friday. He was three days and three nights in the tomb (Mt 12:40; 16:21; 17:22-23; 20:17-19; 27:62-64; Lu 24:1-8; Joh 2:19). He arose before daylight on Sunday morning at the end of the sabbath (Joh 20:1; Mt 28:1; Mr 16:2). Thus he must have been crucified on Wednesday or Thursday. The Jewish day begins in the evening (Ge 1:5,8,13,19,23).
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    We call Easter "Resurrection Sunday" at our church. It's a great time to witness because there are alot of people who only go to church 2 days out of the year--Easter & Christmas.
     
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  13. wopik

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    Hi, Linda


    Seems like the Church became unmoored from the Passover -- from Jesus' timing for keeping Passover (day and time of day) ---


    the evening at the beginning of Nisan 14


    In one letter to the mostly gentile Corinthian Church, Paul tells them to IMITATE him as he IMITATES Christ (1Cor. 11:1). Paul goes on to explain: "For I have received OF THE LORD that which also I delivered unto you, That the Lord Jesus the same night in which He was betrayed took bread........."


    1Cor.
    11:1
    "Follow my example, as I follow the example of Christ."


    The "foot washing", the "bread and wine", "the night He was betrayed" were all parts of the Passover examples that Jesus gave us.


    IMITATE me as I IMITATE Christ - 1Cor. 11:1
     
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  14. wopik

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    King Constantine followed in the footsteps of King Jeroboam.


    King Constantine counterfeited one of God's holy Days: Passover (changing the time it was observed).


    King Jeroboam counterfeited one of God's holy Days: the Feast of Tabernacles.


    Instead of having the children of Israel, who were under his jurisdiction, go down to Jerusalem to keep the Feast on the 15th day of the seventh month, Jeroboam ordained a new Feast of Tabernacles to be observed on the 15th day of the eighth month -- "which he had devised of his own heart" (1Kings 12:26-33).


    Jeroboam incurred divine wrath by building, in Dan and Bethel, shrines to rival the Jerusalem Temple.

    Jeroboam's "royal cult set the pattern for his successors, who are customarily evaluated as perpetuating his SIN (1Kgs. 16:26)."


    The New Bible Dictionary, Eerdmans Publishing Co., article: Jeroboam.


    Thus Jeroboam became distinguished as the man "who made Israel to sin." This policy was followed by all the succeeding kings of Israel.
     
    #34 wopik, Apr 13, 2006
  15. Eliyahu

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    Even though I don't celebrate it, if anyone wants to celebrate this season, they can call it either Passover or Resurrection Day.

    Gal 4:10-11
    Ye observe days, and months, and times, and years.

    Gal 4:11 I am afraid of you, lest I have bestowed upon you labour in vain.
     
    #35 Eliyahu, Apr 14, 2006
  16. wopik

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    the bible doesnt say when the resurrection of Christ happened, no date. Therefore there is no reason why you cannot celebrate christmas or easter any day of the year. Nor does the bible say when Christ was born.

    The sabbath is different. God told us specifically when the sabbath is, He also warned against keeping the commandments of men. The catholic church said no, we are going to change the sabbath day God made to a different day, as if we were God.


    as long as you celebrate these holidays minus the pagan trimmings there is nothing at all wrong with it.

    God is glorified when we remember and commemorate the birth and death of Christ.

    what if the Wiccan witchcraft church decided tomorrow that every saturday was the sabbath. Would you stop keeping the sabbath then?

    understand?

    what if tommorrow the satanic church decided to bring in a vase of flowers every day and set it on the coffee table to celebrate satan? would you stop putting vases of flowers on your coffee table?

    we cant base our religion on what other people do that is wrong, we have to base our religion on what the Bible tells us to do that is right.

    Claudia
     
    #37 Claudia_T, Apr 14, 2006
  18. Eliyahu

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    For me, 365days are Sabbath Day and Lord's Day, all the days throughout my life will be Lord's Day. I take the rest in Him throughout my life, then He works all the time for me, and on behalf of me. The only thing that I have to do is to praise my Lord Jesus Christ who is Wonderful and Peace.
     
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  19. wopik

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    Easter is not of God, despite the great affection and allegiance to it that most Christians have. It is nothing more than a Christianized version of an ancient pagan fertility festival that dates all the way back to Babylon.

    To all you sincere and earnest followers of Jesus, I encourage you to humble yourselves and at least look into the origins of Easter. You needn't go any farther than credited, secular sources like the Encyclopedia Britannica. And by all means, explore and try out the biblical festivals. They are prescribed by God and are full of the rich symbolism and prophecy of Messiah's life and death and coming again.

     
    #39 wopik, Apr 15, 2006
  20. wopik

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    I'll tell you why the world celebrates Easter and Christmas. It's because these holidays from their inception were simply age-old pagan festivals that were Christianized to welcome in all the various religions into the fold of the emerging faith.

    It's time that we come out of Babylon, brothers and sisters. God is holy and He has prescribed how He desires to be worshipped.

    Let us cast off the vain and worthless traditions that we have inherited from our fathers and walk in the ancient paths of God, for therein lies the blessing.
     
    #40 wopik, Apr 15, 2006
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