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The Ethiopian eunuch’s passage part 3 (Details about propitiation)

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by stilllearning, Sep 25, 2011.

  1. stilllearning

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    September 25, 2011
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    GRAB YOUR BIBLES Isaiah 53:9-12
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    The Ethiopian eunuch’s passage...part 3:(Details about propitiation)
    See Romans 3:24-25
    V.24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
    V.25 Whom God hath set forth [to be] a propitiation through faith in his blood,
    to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past,
    through the forbearance of God;

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    “propitiation” Lit.(A full payment for sin)
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    LETS READ THE TEXT Isaiah 53:9-12
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    V.9A “And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death;”

    -A SPECIFIC PROPHECY....ABOUT THE LORD’S DEATH-
    (That needs to be looked at literally:)
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    -A LITERAL LOOK....AT THIS PROPHECY-
    ➀“he made his grave” Lit. (The tomb)
    ➁“in his death” (Between the cross & the tomb:)
    ➂“with the rich” (The rich man that buried Him:)
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    -WHO......COULD RIGHTFULLY BE REFERRED TO A “WICKED”?-
    “his grave with the wicked”
    Note: Most people point to the two thieves at the cross:
    But we don’t know...if they were “wicked” or not:
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    But we do know....about the Sanhedrin soldiers:
    Who accepted a bribe to lie:
    About what they witnessed....at the tomb!
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    Therefor this is an accurate prophecy!
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    V.9B “because he had done no violence,”
    -ANOTHER PART OF “SATAN PLAN”....THAT BACKFIRED-
    (With all the violence used against Jesus:)
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    The Lord’s arrest and prosecution was very unusual:
    In the way the Lord was mistreated:
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    And Satan expected Jesus to fight back!
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    V.9C “neither [was any] deceit in his mouth.”
    -THE LORD’S SUPERNATURAL.....LACK OF RESPONSE-
    (The same kind of “lake of response”:)
    That is expected from us:
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    The Lord had countless opportunities:
    To point out the hypocrisy of those charging & judging Him:
    But He never did!
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    V.10A “Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him;”
    -THE MOST PERPLEXING PART.....OF THIS PASSAGE-
    (It pleased the Father....for this to happen:)
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    -THE ONLY WAY.......FOR US TO UNDERSTAND THIS-
    Is by the fact...that the Father “saw the big picture”:
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    ➀He saw that Jesus was going to endure it:
    ➁Therefore bring Glory to both of them:
    ➂And make salvation available to all humanity!
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    This is why it pleased the LORD!
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    -ALSO......THINK ABOUT WHAT I SAID ABOUT THIS......BACK IN VERSE 5-
    See V.5 Last week I said that this was........
    “Part of Satan’s plan...for our Lord’s crucifixion”
    But...here we find...that this was the father’s plan:
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    ➀This goes back to the repeated Biblical practice:
    ➁Of God....using the actions of the wicked:
    ➂To accomplish His perfect will!
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    Therefore.....in one since of the word:
    The Father did do this!
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    -THIS IS ALSO A FACT.....THAT GETS CHRISTIANS EXCITED-
    Because it reminds us...that God is in control:
    See Acts 4:23-29
    V.23 ¶ And being let go, they went to their own company, and reported all that the chief priests and elders had said unto them.
    V.24 And when they heard that, they lifted up their voice to God with one accord, and said, Lord, thou [art] God, which hast made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and all that in them is:
    V.25 Who by the mouth of thy servant David hast said, Why did the heathen rage, and the people imagine vain things?
    V.26 The kings of the earth stood up, and the rulers were gathered together against the Lord, and against his Christ.
    V.27 For of a truth against thy holy child Jesus, whom thou hast anointed, both Herod, and Pontius Pilate, with the Gentiles, and the people of Israel, were gathered together,
    V.28 For to do whatsoever thy hand and thy counsel determined before to be done.
    V.29 And now, Lord, behold their threatenings: and grant unto thy servants, that with all boldness they may speak thy word,

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    V.10B “he hath put [him] to grief:”
    -THE FULFILMENT....OF GOD’S PLAN FOR OUR REDEMPTION-
    (By the punishment.... “He allowed”:)
    To be inflicted upon Jesus:
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    This was the....only way:
    Our sins....could be paid for!
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    V.10C “when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin,”
    -JESUS WAS AN OFFERING....TO PAY FOR OUR SIN-
    Note: (Because of our sin...we owe a debt:)
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    And Jesus paid our sin debt....in full!
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    V.10D “he shall see [his] seed,”
    -HERE WE SEE.....WHAT THE FATHER WANTED OUT OF THIS-
    (He wanted to see....the fulfillment:)
    Of His promise to Abraham:
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    To be a father....of many nations!
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    V.10E “he shall prolong [his] days,”
    -A NATURAL RESULT.....OF BEING BORN AGAIN-
    (Christians will generally...live longer lives:)
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    See 1 Kings 3:14
    “And if thou wilt walk in my ways, to keep my statutes and my commandments,
    as thy father David did walk, then I will lengthen thy days.”

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    Avoiding sin....pays off in a physical way also!
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    V.10F “and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.”
    -A DETAIL....ABOUT HOW TO BE COMMITTED TO THE LORD-
    (By putting yourself.....in God’s hand:)
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    Lit. (Under his direction)
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    This is where total commitment....really pays off!
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    V.11A “He shall see of the travail of his soul,”
    -OUR HEAVENLY FATHER.....WATCHED IT ALL-
    (Seeing everything that happened to His Son:)
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    Because it was being done.....for a purpose:
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    This was a legal transaction...that had to be witnessed.
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    V.11B “[and] shall be satisfied:”
    -THE LORD’S PUNISHMENT...SATISFIED GOD’S REQUIREMENT-
    (It was enough.....to pay for our sins:)
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    The Lord’s death on the cross:
    Was a full payment:
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    So there is nothing left....for us to pay!
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    V.11C “by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many;”
    -THE KNOWLEDGE OF THE GOSPEL...MAKES A DIFFERENCE-
    (This is why....we tell people about Jesus:)
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    -BUT “KNOWLEDGE” ALONE.....DOES NOT SAVE ANYBODY-
    Billions of people will die and go to hell:
    With only....a “head knowledge”:
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    People need to act...upon conviction:
    And conviction...only comes from God!
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    V.11D “for he shall bear their iniquities.”
    -THE DETAIL.....THAT SAVES INDIVIDUAL SOULS-
    (When a person....receives & trusts the Gospel:)
    All their sins....are covered by the blood:
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    Jesus pays for their sins.....personally!

    Continued below.....
     
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    V.12A “Therefore will I divide him [a portion] with the great,”
    -THE FATHER’S REWARD TO THE SON....FOR HIS FAITHFULNESS-
    (This is the exact thing....that we are seeing:)
    In our Wednesday night study...through Revelation:
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    What we saw last Wednesday.......
    Rev.1:6 “...“to him [be] glory and dominion”
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    This was a result...of the Lord’s faithfulness!
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    V.12B “and he shall divide the spoil with the strong;”
    -WE WILL SHARE....IN THE SPOILS OF THIS VICTORY-
    (The Lord’s victory.....over Satan:)
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    Therefore... “we” have a real victory over Satan:
    Qt. 1 John 4:4 “....greater is he that is in you,
    than he that is in the world.”

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    We get more from the cross...than we will ever realize in this life!
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    V.12C “because he hath poured out his soul unto death:”
    -THE MOST UNFAIR THING.....IN LIFE-
    (➀We are saved and..... ➁wonderfully blessed:)
    Because Jesus....gave His life for us:
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    None of us deserve to be forgiven!
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    Just as He....didn’t deserve to go to the cross!
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    V.12D “and he was numbered with the transgressors;"
    -THE PROPHECY....ABOUT THE TWO THIEVES-
    (When the Lord...was “numbered with them”:)
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    See Mark 15:27-28
    V.27 And with him they crucify two thieves; the one on his right hand, and the other on his left.
    V.28 And the scripture was fulfilled, which saith, And he was numbered with the transgressors.

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    -SATAN’S PLAN......FOR PLACING JESUS BETWEEN TWO THIEVES-
    This was intended...to keep His death:
    From looking like.....anything noble:
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    By having Him put to death with two criminals:
    But it didn’t work:
    Because the Lord’s glory shown through!
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    V.12E “and he bare the sin of many,”
    -THE FINAL NAIL....IN THE COFFIN....OF OUR SIN-
    (The Lord personally covers our sin:)
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    “bare” Lit.(Carry away)
    The individual believer’s sin is covered!
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    -THE CALVINIST ARGUMENT....WITHIN THIS VERSE-
    Because they are always looking for Scriptures:
    They can call their own:
    And they will zero in....on the word “many”:
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    But the whole Bible....makes it clear:
    That His blood....was shed for everyone!
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    V.12F “and made intercession for the transgressors.”
    -THE LORD’S CONTINUED MINISTRY.....FOR US-
    (As our....intercessor in heaven:)
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    Every time.....an accusation is laid against us:
    Jesus points....to His blood on the altar in heaven:
    And reminds the Father...that we are forgiven!
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    It says many....not all.....

    where does the bible say...or make it clear.....that the blood was shed for all men without exception as you claim?


    Could you show a verse that mentions blood,all men without exception,having their sins paid for?

    Are you teaching this to people?teaching against the truth like this???

     
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    Good morning Iconoclast

    You ask........
    Don’t get the wrong impression.
    I don’t harp on Calvinism; This subject may only come up every couple of years or so, but yes I do warn people about the teachings of Calvinism(just like I do with the teachings of the Charismatics).
    You’ll are still our brothers and sisters in Christ; You are just lifting “your teachings”, above the Word of God.
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    You also asked for details........
    Well as I said, it’s all over the Bible; But more specifically every time the Bible says “whosoever will”(in the area of salvation), opens up salvation to EVERYONE, therefore the Blood of Christ was shed for everyone.

    Also, from Genesis to Revelation, we see man’s free will staring us in the face......
    Proverbs 1:29
    “For that they hated knowledge, and did not choose the fear of the LORD:”

    But to get even more specific, the Bible teaches that the precious blood of Jesus was shed for even the unsaved, that die and go to hell.......
    2 Peter 2:1
    “But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.”

    (The Lord’s blood “bought them”, even though they rejected it!)
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    I am not wanting a war here.
    I am just a simple minister, warning God’s people about all the extra-biblical ideas that are out there, that will get them off track.

    I don’t take a stand in defense of ANYTHING, but the plain word of God!
    (As I have shared before, if you catch yourself “defending” some man’s teaching, than you should check and see if that man is Christ!)
     
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