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The Evening of John 20:19

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by rstrats, Jul 28, 2008.

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  1. rstrats

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    John 20:19 says that the disciples were gathered together at evening on the first day of the week. Since it is generally accepted that the first day of the week began at sundown at the end of the seventh day, and since all the first day early and late morning activities had apparently taken place in the light part of the day by the time of the gathering, how can it be the evening? Didn’t evening and the new day start at sundown? Or is "evening" being used here to refer to the period of time between noon and sundown? And if so, what would they have called the dark period after sundown if it wasn't evening?
     
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    You may perhaps try read my book, 'The Lord's Day in the Covenant of Grace', find it here: http://www.biblestudents.co.za. Click on 'Book 2, Resurrection'. With your 'search' button on your 'My Documents' menu, you can enter any of the terms used in this Scripture, and it will give you all the results through any of the books.

    The expression is always used as a retrospective reference to PAST events. The time and the day on which reference is made to the day of the referenced event naturally cannot be identical. It's like that in any language. We shall party after a rugby game won, until after twelve o'clock, and say, What a game have we had today! A year after we shall recall that game and say, What a party we had that day! The game actually was on the day before; the party actually was on the day after!

    So the historic context determines which day is actually spoken of or referred to. The grammar does not literally determine the real facts; the style does. The matter is one of Stilistics, not of Grammar or Syntax. Nevertheless 'ekeinos' is a Demonstrative Pronoun, which explains any difficulties. It does not cancel out Grammatical sense.

    So in John 20 Monday is the time of reference being made to the actual (previous) day of event.
    Read much more said ... specifically.
     
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    In Jn19:31 'ekeinos' refers to the day that has just started and still lay ahead -- was still prospective.
     
    #3 Gerhard Ebersoehn, Jul 30, 2008
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