The extent of God’s promise to the Jews

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http://www.eschatology.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=section&id=3&Itemid=61


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You are ignoring what the passage teaches. You simply dismiss it without engaging the points being made. That is not a good way to understand scripture.

Eph. 2:11+ makes several specific points.

1. Jews and Gentiles are no longer considered separate groups by God. They are both now part of "God's household". Not just the Jews, but also the Gentiles. This was accomplished by Christ shed blood.

To maintain a separate future for Israel is to ingore the truth that both groups have become one in "God's household".

2. By His work on the cross, Jesus abolished the "eminity", that is the Law of ordinances.

3. By His work on the cross, Jesus made the two groups into one "new man", at peace with each other and God.

4. Both groups, now as the one new man, are brought into the presence of God by Holy Spirit, because of Jesus' work on the cross.

Romans 11 must be understood in the context of Romans 9:8 "That is, it is not the children of the flesh who are children of God, but the children of the promise..."

And 9:24 "even us, whom He also called, not from among Jews only, but also among Gentiles..."

And we see in Romans 11:5 "In the same way then, there has also come to be at the present time a remnant according to God's gracious choice..."

So, when Paul is speaking of the Jews that have been hardened, he is speaking of those who were not chosen, they were not the children of the promise, they were not part of the remnant that God had chosen for salvation.

First, please think about what you are saying. You are dividing people into 3 groups. Jews that are saved, Jews that are unsaved, and Gentiles. Scripture tells us there are only two groups. Those that are saved and those that are not.

Are you saying that the Jews who where blinded, rejected Christ, and then died, are going to be "recipients of God's promise"?

Paul is speaking of Jews generally of being blinded by God so the gospel will go to the Gentiles. The reason for that is that there are some Gentiles whom God has chosen to be children of the promise, children of God (part of the household of God).

When the time of the Gentiles is completed (that is all the Gentiles God has chosen for salvation have come to salvation), God will lift the blindness from the Jews (generally speaking) that are living in that day. IMHO, there will be a widespread acceptance of Jesus as Messiah among Jews of that day.

Those Jews who are saved (just as all other Christians are saved and become part of the church), will be "grafted" back into the tree, along with the Jews of earlier days that were saved, as well as the Gentiles that were saved.

And thus, Paul says, "all Israel will be saved" Romans 11:26. The context is clear that Paul is referring to those who are "Israel" (made of of both Jews and Gentiles) by being children of the promise, not children according to the flesh.

So, "Israel" is comprised of both Jew and Gentile that has been grafted into one branch.

So even in Romans 11, there is no separate future for the Jews and the Gentiles. They are grafted into the same tree.

Christians are raptured after the tribulation, God judges all people, and we live in heaven and enjoy God for ever and ever.

peace to youraying: