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The Great Awakening

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Wingman68, Aug 25, 2018.

  1. Wingman68

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    r/greatawakening - Connnecting some dots

    This needs to be read slowly, there is much to digest, as it connects the dots. Linked by Q, it will go viral, I’m sure.

    If you wonder why the attacks on Trump rachet up by the hour, it isn’t anything other than the deep state & all their corrupt friends being in full on panic survival mode. Some on this forum will reiterate all the nonsense about how Trump is going down, they make me sick.

    Ask yourself who among us would be able to stand & fight like Trump? Thank God we have a street fighter, even with his ‘unpresidential’ street fighting ways. Pray for him, he needs our support.
     
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    This could very well be tha main reason God raised him up at this time, to be His warrior against those who arfe in the "deep state"
     
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    This is the resurrection of the Canaanite cult of unspeakable perversions (although the bible speaks several of them to warn against them).

    Leviticus 18
    24 Defile not ye yourselves in any of these things: for in all these the nations are defiled which I cast out before you:
    25 And the land is defiled: therefore I do visit the iniquity thereof upon it, and the land itself vomiteth out her inhabitants.
     
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    I don't understand the establishment. If Hillary and the Rinos had won the election, the economy would have gone into more recession and a crime wave would have been set off by people such as Maxine Waters and the communist "antifa" who are some very young rich whites who are punch drunk and want to fight everyone including handicapped, children women and elderly. And then the Mexican cartels would have sent even more violent criminals into our cities and Muslim jihadists would be pouring into our country itching for a fight and bringing with them the Islamic squalor that now identifies Europe. So how would the total decay of America have helped the Democrats and the Rinos other than destroying everything good and in the long run threatening their money and their enclaves? If you can be wealthy in a sea of crime, drugs, and violence, why don't the elites move to South Africa or Paris or London or South America or any Arab place?
     
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    The economy and the stock market have done better under Democrats than republicans since Reagan. he's who started our decline through large deficits and voodoo economics. he covered his deficits by spending the Social Security Trust Fund balance.
     
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    There you go again with the Fake News.

    Sent from my Pixel 2 XL
     
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    Venezuela
     
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    This is from Fortune Magazine not exactly a wildly liberal publication.
     
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    Awww, lookie here, he thinks he found something.

    ...........
    The study concludes that Democratic presidents do have more Gross Domestic Product growth than Republicans, according to quarterly GDP data dating back to 1947, when the data was first tracked.

    However, the economists point out that there are other factors, such as better oil prices and international conditions, that could be driving these better numbers for Democratic presidents. In short, Democrats occupying the Oval Office tend to have a little better luck.

    Experts we spoke with largely held the same views.

    Harvard University government professor Jeffrey Frankel said the statistics, from GDP to the unemployment rate, are striking, but noted that the president does not have "all that control."

    "That doesn’t prove what the cause is," Frankel said. (Update: After this item published, we heard from Frankel who said he believed Clinton's statement was accurate because Clinton did not say that Democrats caused the gap in performance. You can read more on his views here.)

    Robert Shapiro, chairman of Washington D.C. economic advisory firm Sonecon, said Clinton is right, but with the same caveat.

    "The details, of course, depend on how and what you compare, since the economy performs better in certain periods than others," Shapiro said.

    Christian Weller, a public policy professor at the University of Massachusetts Boston, did his own math on the GDP data since 1947.

    He found that the economy, through the last quarter of 2015 and after inflation, grew 3.8 percent under Democrats and 2.4 percent under Republicans.

    For President Barack Obama, the growth rate in his first term was 1.8 percent. His current growth rate is 2 percent, but that’s still higher than his predecessor, George W. Bush. And his second term hasn’t ended yet.

    Based on estimates, Weller said Obama should hit the 2.4 percent Republican average. Still, Ronald Reagan’s 3.4 percent growth rate is well ahead of the economy right now under Obama.

    "Other than Obama, every Democrat had a faster growth rate, even (Jimmy) Carter had a slightly higher growth rate than Reagan," Weller said. "This is one of the safest talking points for a Democratic contender."

    However, the asterisks bother Arizona State University presidential historian Brooks Simpson.

    "Secretary Clinton is not exactly telling the whole truth,’" Simpson said.

    Simpson referenced Bill Clinton’s administration, noting that he benefited from some of the economic policies of his predecessor, Republican George H.W. Bush. A 2011 report from the right-leaning Heritage Foundation notes that the economy was already in its "22nd month of expansion" when Bill Clinton took office in January 1993.

    Our ruling

    Hillary Clinton said, "the economy always does better when there’s a Democrat in the White House."

    Yes, Democratic presidents do have more Gross Domestic Product growth than Republicans, according to quarterly GDP data dating back to 1947.

    But Clinton's comments require several caveats. The current growth in the economy under Obama is lower than the Republican average. Factors such as oil prices also reflect the higher GDP growth under Democratic presidents. On top of that, comparing one period of time to another or one president to another can be problemati

    Does the economy always do better under Democratic presidents?
     
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    Bottom line is Democrats always benefit from Republican policies. Bill Clinton is a prime example. Bush jr. spent too much money.
     
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    Not true but I will agree that who's in the White House is not the only factor. It would be extremely difficult to support the opposite conclusion which you claim.
     
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    No, no it isn't
     
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    "Average annualized GDP growth rate."

    Nice choice of statistical metrics.

    No one who lived through these years would say Carter had a good economy. No one would say Obama's years were better than George W. Bush's. Bush's economy suffered from after effects of 911 and the onset of the Great Recession. Basically two years--2002 and 2008-- dragged down the "average annualized GDP growth rate" of Bush's entire 8 years. But 2003-2007 were pretty good.

    Clinton had a good run, aided by Republican tax cuts, welfare reform, and was a beneficiary of the internet boom, the home PC boom, and the increased productivity that computers on every desk brought to the workplace. Let's not forget that the NASDAQ crashed in Clinton's last year.



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    Take your concerns to Fortune Mag. I just posted their analysis. One person's perception does not override the facts.
     
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