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The Greatest Evil/Sin of all History

Discussion in '2003 Archive' started by Dr. Bob, Aug 1, 2003.

  1. Dr. Bob

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    Would you all agree that the very worst sin or evil ever commited by man was deicide or the killing of God?

    Crucifying the Lord of Glory would HAVE to rank higher than any other sin I can consider.

    Of all sin, evil, calamity that ever befell humanity, Golgotha would be #1.

    And who did it?
    So they were guilty and culpable and stand condemned for their action. But who planned, caused and authored it?
    Even in the greatest "evil" of all time, GOD WAS 100% SOVEREIGNLY IN CONTROL.

    (Of course, Mama used to say, "Forrest, Evil is in the eye of the beholder." MAN meant it for "evil"; God meant it for "good"!)
     
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    So they were guilty and culpable and stand condemned for their action. But who planned, caused and authored it?
    Even in the greatest "evil" of all time, GOD WAS 100% SOVEREIGNLY IN CONTROL.

    (Of course, Mama used to say, "Forrest, Evil is in the eye of the beholder." MAN meant it for "evil"; God meant it for "good"!)
    </font>[/QUOTE]Liberalism has to be up there also as very sinful
     
  3. Brett

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    So... you think liberalism is on par with killing God? :eek:

    I think I lean more towards the liberal side of things, especially when it comes to civil liberties, and I'm offended that one could compare that with killing Jesus Christ.
     
  4. dianetavegia

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    # 2 in my book would be abortion with
    # 3 being the Holocaust
     
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    the sin in the garden of eden. regarding the crucifixion, i don't think the jews (or romans, for that matter) knew what they were doing at the time.

    other than that, each individual's decision to reject god's salvation, imo.

    or maybe all the sins of believers. inexcusable!
     
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    No one can kill God.
     
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    [​IMG] maybe even more hurtful to God.
     
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    Those who reject Him, "Crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh and put Him to an open shame." All who do so drive the nails into Him all over again. They say, "We will not have this man rule over us." Those who do not wish to have Him now, will get their wish for all eternity.
    Jesus did lay down His life on His own, but He did not nail Himself to the cross, man did. Yes, I would say that was the vilest sin ever, but it continues to go on today by those who reject Him.
     
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    Hi Bob. Great question. I don't think that GOD was "killed" by man. GOD "laid down" his own life (John 10: 15-18, Matt. 26: 52-54) as Christ.

    As I see it, abortion is arguably the greatest earthly sin. latterrain77
     
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    Jesus is the Lamb slain from the foundation (or creation, depending on your translation) of the world -- Rev. 13:8. That means the sacrifice was a reality before Adam and Eve and only worked out in time.

    We are all sinners. We all are responsible.

    But if we are to read Romans 1 and Christ's mention of the unforgiveable sin, then perhaps the greatest sin -- the one that cannot be forgiven -- is the deliberate and consistent rejection of the truth as it is revealed to a person by God and creation. Since Jesus IS The Truth, that means that there is no way that person can be led by God to Christ, for that person is preferring the lie.

    All other sins would simply be expressions of this preference for the lie: abortion, other murders, the Crucifixion itself, blasphemy...the list goes on for a very long time.

    We tend to think in human terms when we think of 'the greatest sin'. The Bible speaks in terms of truth and lie.
     
  11. dianetavegia

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    Dr. Bob is asking the greatest sin or evil in HISTORY not in a personal sense.

    That's why I didn't include rejection of salvation. That is one on one.

    Diane
     
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    I would agree... depending on the criteria for the ranking system itself. From a human standpoint, it definately seems to have the biggest impact of any sin since the fall. And the sheer thought of God in flesh allowing himself to be taken, tortured, and killed.... gives me goosebumps!
     
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    I don't think that Dr. Griffin was trying to start a poll on what we believe to be the greatest sin of all time. I think his main point was that although the crucifixion of Jesus was history's worst crime, it was an act fully within God's sovereign will. In fact, it was predetermined, not just foreseen, by Him. And, even though those who carried out this evil act were in a sense fulfilling God's will, He still held them morally responsible for their actions. (Similar examples can be found in 2 Samuel 24; 2 Kings 19:25-28; Isaiah 10:5-11.) God is always in control, even in times (like ours) when sin seems rampant.
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    Dr. Bob,

    I agree wholeheartedly in principle with your post. However, I would not necessarily say the men who crucified Christ committed the greatest of all sins, for the fact that they really did not know that Jesus was the Messiah. As Jesus said,

    "They know not what they do."

    And as Peter said,

    "I wot that through ignorance ye did it, as did also your rulers."

    On the limited information we have, if I were awarding the greatest sin of all time I would award it to Herod. Herod knew that baby Jesus was the Christ and tried to kill him anyway.

    Now that is deicide in the highest degree!

    Mark Osgatharp
     
  15. dianetavegia

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    Father, forgive them. They know not what they do.
     
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    Dr. Griffin, I agree with Mark. Those who demanded the death of Christ and those who carried it out, Jesus said to forive them, FOR THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY DO. It seems to me that those of us who sin and yet know better maybe worst than they.
     
  17. amixedupmom

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    Please ecuse my post, i've only be a saved woman less than a year (11 months now). But this is what I personally believe.

    They knew who Jesus was and killed him. The reasons they kill him vary. But, the biggest crime they put on him was keeping the Sabbath. It's remarked all though John.

    Power does funny things to people as it did to the pharasee's and sagisee's ( I know I spelled both wrong i'm shooting from the hip here [​IMG] .). They were afrid of losing control over the population, in that end, they would lose money. they killed him over greed. SOME mothers who commit abortion (notice i didn't say all) do it because they don't want the hassle of raising a child. They want the attention and ext for themselves.

    THE GREATEST sin...... is GREED. AS it's said. It's the root of all evil. It's why EDEN fell, cain killed abel, and why Jesus was scraficed for all of us. Plain and simple. It's not once incident that is the worst sin ever. It's on flawed human emotion.

    Please excuse this post if it upset anyone I just wanted to post my thoughts [​IMG]
     
  18. amixedupmom

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    Please ecuse my post, i've only be a saved woman less than a year (11 months now). But this is what I personally believe.

    They knew who Jesus was and killed him. The reasons they kill him vary. But, the biggest crime they put on him was keeping the Sabbath. It's remarked all though John.

    Power does funny things to people as it did to the pharasee's and sagisee's ( I know I spelled both wrong i'm shooting from the hip here [​IMG] .). They were afrid of losing control over the population, in that end, they would lose money. they killed him over greed. SOME mothers who commit abortion (notice i didn't say all) do it because they don't want the hassle of raising a child. They want the attention and ext for themselves.

    THE GREATEST sin...... is GREED. AS it's said. It's the root of all evil. It's why EDEN fell, cain killed abel, and why Jesus was scraficed for all of us. Plain and simple. It's not once incident that is the worst sin ever. It's on flawed human emotion.

    Please excuse this post if it upset anyone I just wanted to post my thoughts [​IMG]
     
  19. amixedupmom

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    i didn't mean to do that twice i'm sorry my computer is being a pain this evening *hides*
     
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