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The Green Bible is Here

Discussion in 'Bible Versions & Translations' started by Marcia, Jan 7, 2009.

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  1. Marcia

    Marcia Active Member

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    The Green Bible is here:
    http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2008/12/29/20081229GreenBible1224.html

    I used to be an animal rights activist and environmentalist (I still like animals and think animal abuse in factory farming is wrong). If the Sierra Club endorses this, that means they believe this will help further their agenda, which is earth focused. Most environmentalists believe that man should serve the earth, and that man is a blight upon the earth. Many of them are New Agers and Neopagans.

    I see a movement toward social justice and earth issues in the church that will minimize the priority of spreading the gospel. Why save the earth and ignore lost people who need Christ?

    This is not about deliberately polluting or detroying the earth (who is for that) - it's about a subtle agenda that is pulling the church in the wrong direction, imo.

    And here we have a Bible - God's word - called "green." IOW, an "environmental Bible."
     
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  2. tinytim

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    I got a chance to look at it at our state convention this yr, I almost bought one..

    It has in it references about how humans must be good stewards of creation.

    It is not as bad as I first thought it would be.
    It is completely made from recycled materials.

    I don't remember the translation, but it was a well respected one.
     
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  4. Marcia

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    Did you look at the study notes, if it had them? Are they all about the earth?

    This big focus on being stewards of the creation bothers me. This is not the main theme of the bible.
     
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  5. tinytim

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    I am in no way an environmentalist.. I mock the notion of man made global warming, so, yes, the whole idea of a "green" bible disturbs me.

    But I don't know if it is because I disagree with the premise that we should preserve the earth or the fact that I am so FED UP with hearing the word "green"!

    Everything that wants to sell is going "green"... Kermit the frog would be so proud!


    You can go here and look at it yourself.. http://browseinside.harpercollins.com/index.aspx?isbn13=9780061627996

    I am a little biased against "green" products...
    As a matter of fact I switched dish washing detergent because the one we were using went "green"... It may be cheaper.. but I am tired of 'green"
     
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    I am not an environmentalist per se but I do believe we should be a good steward to that which God gave us dominion. This means I don't believe in waste. If one hunts for food that is ok but when they hunt for fun and leave the carcase then I think it's wasteful and not what God intended. Same with the environment, I think God gave us the knowledge to burn gas and make paper etc... We just need to leave what we don't need to future generations.
     
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  7. tinytim

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    From where I come from, that is just pure ole fashioned common sense..
    It was what my grandpa taught me, and his taught him...

    But they didn't label it "Green"... It was just right!
    It seems like everything is going "green" just to make more "green bucks"

    That is what really bothers me...
    I don't hunt, (Used to.. still would like too, but never really get the chance) But when I did, it was the way you described... My dad and grandpa would have skinned me alive if I would have left a deer in the woods.. or even injured.

    But some take it too far.
     
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    I don't necessarily agree with this view. I'm an environmentalist, though my environmentalism is prefaced by Christian doctrine, and I don't believe this. Of course if you are speaking strictly of secularists who are rabid environmentalists, than I agree.

    I don't know how we can get any more minimizing of spreading the Gospel than we, the evangelical church, are practicing right now. How many of our fellow parishioners have shared the Gospel in the past week? month? year?

    When considering both social justice and creation care I would suggest that by participating in bringing resolution to these areas is participating in sharing the Gospel. When Jesus and the New Testament writers speak about the totality of the Gospel we see there are elements of stewardship and serving others intrinsically linked.

    One of the great scandals of the evangelical church in the past half century has been the neglect of a total Gospel practice that has obsfucated the true Gospel. Claiming that the only true expression of the Gospel centered Christianity is limited to a dialetical expression that does not mind the whole of Christ's teaching is deeply troubling.

    I would suggest that support for a holistic view of creation care is an important aspect of the Gospel and stewardship.

    Honestly I'm not a huge fan...I think its vain marketting. The idea is nice, but the practice seems silly. imho :)
     
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  10. Marcia

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    I missed that thread but it does not look like there was much discussion.

    I see threads started all the time on drinking, overeating, etc. even though there often have been many threads posted previously, so I think it's okay to have started this.
     
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  11. Marcia

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    But just because we are not sharing the gospel now does not make it okay to focus on the earth. It is watering down the gospel message even more, imo.

    How is caring for the earth or talking about caring for the earth sharing the Gospel that one needs to repent of sins?


    Sorry, the word "holistic" gives me the creeps. It usually has to do with spirituality - but not Christian faith. Isn't the gospel defined in the Bible? And it does not include talking about taking care of the earth, does it?

    Let me say again, I am not for deliberate destruction of the earth (or the body - see cremation thread in Other Christian Denominations where I am only one of 2 people who do not think cremation is a good idea and all my biblical points are in vain) but there's a difference between just being careful or using common sense, as TinyTim pointed out, and going out of your way to be part of an evironmental agenda and focus. This is a commitment that many Christians are calling other Christians to.

    This is from the same article I posted above:
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    This worries me.

    Maybe I should have started this thread in General Baptist Discussions? I wasn't sure so started it here since it was about a Bible.
     
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  12. Marcia

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    Thanks for the link!

    The foreword is by Desmond Tutu and contributors include Brian McLaren (natch) and Pope Paul. Most of the contributors seems to be theologians/professors from liberal schools. Wendell Berry is a naturalist and farmer.

    There is a definite message in the things these people are saying.

    I keep thinking of New Ager Matthew Fox (technically an Episcopal priest) and his creation spirituality which teaches that Jesus came to save the earth.
     
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    Of course. I only added the link because it was related.
     
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  14. Marcia

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    Right - thanks! :thumbsup:
     
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  15. KJVBibleThumper

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    It is sad how the Bible is being twisted into so many shapes and forms in order to promote this agenda or that agenda. Why can't we just stick to one Bible and quit messing around with it?

    The biggest two messes of agenda focused bibles as far as I as know right now, is the Refuel and Revolve teen bibles. Both of which promote greenness over holiness, and recycling over witnessing.
     
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  16. Marcia

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    Well, I didn't know that. I had heard of those teen bibles but didn't realize they emphasized greenness and recycling. Thanks for the info.

    Btw, I think there is at least one other person on the BB from Montana.
     
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    Proof, please?
     
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    Even Jesus never made that proclamation. In fact there was more than one when he lived on this earth.

    I would think that he would have mist likely approved of one who had a Bible that was well read because a Bible that is falling apart is usually read by someone who isn't.
     
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  19. KJVBibleThumper

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    These two articles put it extremely well,

    Information on the Refuel
    http://www.av1611.org/kjv/refuel.html

    Information of the Revolve
    http://www.av1611.org/kjv/revolve.html

    Each of these two bibles pushes social activism and planet saving. This is not the thread to argue over the actual translation that is being used in these bibles, (If you want to discuss the translation, feel free to PM me or start a new thread)I am just pointing out that the information that these bibles push and the message that they give is extremely politically correct.
     
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  20. KJVBibleThumper

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    The Bible does in fact contain the promise that God's Word would be preserved perfectly forever. However, given the way threads discussing the relevant verses usually go, I suggest if you want to discuss it, you drop me a PM. ;)

    And I like the last part of your post, if people read their Bibles more, a lot of shrinks would abruptly be out of business. :D
     
    #20 KJVBibleThumper, Jan 9, 2009
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