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The Holy Father visits Spain

Discussion in 'Free-For-All Archives' started by Carson Weber, May 4, 2003.

  1. Carson Weber

    Carson Weber <img src="http://www.boerne.com/temp/bb_pic2.jpg">

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    where is Steubenville?

    It's on the eastern border alongside the Ohio River off of US 22. It's about 40 minutes west of Pittsburgh. It's south of Youngstown and north of Wheeling, just across the river from Weirton, WV.
     
  2. D28guy

    D28guy New Member

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    Carson,

    That explains it. [​IMG] Thats just about the one area of Ohio I dint get to much. I would say Athens would be the closest to there that I ever got. Is it hilly there? Up where I was is flaaaaaaaaat as can be! It drove me crazy!

    I was sure glad when I moved back to Kentucky. I tell people I have the best of both worlds...heaven when I die, and Kentucky while I'm here! :D

    But other then how flat it was, I liked Ohio. Its a good state. Its how I got to be a Buckeyes fan! [​IMG]

    God bless,

    Mike
     
  3. BobRyan

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    The Holy Scriptures tell us exactly WHO is "Holy Father" - it is God the Father as Christ shows us in John 17. That is the ONLY approved use of that title in ALL of scripture.

    But assigning to the Pope - the titles of God the Father - appear to be "a small thing" to some - as the title of this thread demonstrates.

    Question - is there any limit to the titles of God that can be "claimed" for the Pope? Any limit?

    In Christ,

    Bob
     
  4. Carson Weber

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    Bob, I notice that you're performing your usual daily drive-by postings, giving little thought to the dialogue at hand and listening even less to others. I've even gotten to the point of not responding to you or even considering what you post for the reason that I feel you aren't a listener.

    Why speak when you have no audience? Until you return the favor I have given to you up until this point, you've lost Carson as a receptive mind to your voice.

    [ May 21, 2003, 12:47 AM: Message edited by: Carson Weber ]
     
  5. BobRyan

    BobRyan Well-Known Member

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    Carson,

    What's up? Are you saying that you have actually responded with substance to something I posted in the last month? Have you looked at the details of the post and responded?

    Have you posted anything of substance to me and I DID NOT respond to each point in detail?

    I appreciate the picture you are painting - do you have any actual evidence supporting your claims?

    In Christ,

    Bob
     
  6. BobRyan

    BobRyan Well-Known Member

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    As for the subject title of this post - I have given the Bible's definitive position on the identity of THE "Holy Father" in Christ's own words.

    So far - you do not consider those words to be "of substance" and so you have not responded.

    Perhaps if I were in your position on that point - I would avoid them as well.

    I would "like" to think - I would not do it - but who knows.

    In Christ,

    Bob
     
  7. Singer

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    ......you've lost Carson as a receptive mind to your voice.

    * You're supposed to feel BAD now, Bob. [​IMG]

    Singer
     
  8. BobRyan

    BobRyan Well-Known Member

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    Ooops! Sorry.

    "I am feeling bad now". :eek:

    How is that?

    Bob
     
  9. Singer

    Singer New Member

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    Atta Boy !!!
     
  10. GraceSaves

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    Singer and BobRyan,

    C'mon. You took what he said as an insult, and so in return, you make fun of him. Give me a break.

    God bless,

    Grant
     
  11. Singer

    Singer New Member

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    Hey Grant,

    It's nothing personal really; just your normal Catholic vs Protestant
    Blood and Guts Review !

    On a firmer note, I've sat in on many debates and heard the Catholics
    appeal concerning my need to join the RCC.

    In most cases; when confronted; the RCCers admitted that my nonafilliation
    with the Vatican will not prevent me from entering heaven because Protestants
    are not withheld from the glories of God based on their reluctance of joining
    'the fold'. We are told that we are brothers in Christ....yet incomplete as such.

    Therefore, I fail to understand the benefits to anyone in joining the "Church".

    One major reason I can find for not joining is because of God's promises to
    give eternal life to "whosoever believes". Seems like all debates center around
    what it means to ''believe'' or at least "what to believe". The gross failure of
    that sequence is that..... in determining an answer, human beings have to be
    consulted. Even the RCC leanings on the teachings of the early church fathers
    are not sufficient enough to base a change. It still means a modern day
    interpretation is in order. Man against man.

    Catholicism should seriously consider the born again brethern that they encounter
    in the world and try to understand that God's presence via the Holy Spirit is
    evident in that life. Faith of the Protestant is equally as viable as that of the Catholic.

    For example, I know some very spirit filled, born again Catholics and appreciate
    them very much. I hope they see the same in me. We are equal in that accord.
    Their claim to fame by their membership in what they believe is the "one true church"
    is met by my resistance to join any church...........yet our mutual faith in the risen
    savior is our greatest attribute.
     
  12. BobRyan

    BobRyan Well-Known Member

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    You know - I totally missed the kind charitable nature of his remark. You are so right.

    And then of course when I asked Carson to "show" the evidence that I was not "listening" or that he had actually posted substantively to the details of what I posted - he ignored the opportunity to provide the substance. I almost missed that as well.

    My point on this thread was merely to point out the obvious - that Christ only gives God the Father the title that is on the subject line of this thread. AND I gave the "details" showing it in John 17.

    Perhaps this idea of observing the obvious and showing where in scripture this is supported - is a new idea? Should I wait for it to catch on? I was hoping someone would freely "Admit the obvious" when it is pointed out.

    I believe that Christian integrity and honesty should flow across denominational boundaries and admitting the obvious should be basic and "easy" to observe in others.

    In Christ,

    Bob
     
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