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The last kingdom on earth.

Discussion in '2004 Archive' started by humbleherc, Feb 12, 2004.

  1. humbleherc

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  2. Tim

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    The last kingdom on earth? Christ's!
    (This should be one of the few things we amils and you dispensationalists agree on.)

    Tim
     
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    Tim, of course we agree. We just think he uses an actual rod of iron to rule with and not the wiffle bat that you amils believe he uses.
     
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    DD,

    Did Christ use a wiffle bat against Hitler, Saddam ?

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    His reign over the earth RIGHT NOW is not the same as it will be.
     
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    DD,

    We agree! His eternal reign over earth and heaven will be different than His reign right now.


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    And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations: And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father. -Revelation 2:26, 27

    This was a promise to the church at Pergamos of something future, therefore not realized in the resurrection, ascension, etc.

    And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. -Revelation 19:15

    This is the Second Coming of Christ because, according to Revelation 2:25-27, it is upon the Second Coming that the saints will reign with Christ (cf. Revelation 20:4-6).

    Revelation 19:15 cannot be referring to the New Heavens and the New Earth because His rule with a "rod of iron" signifies the existence of hostility which will not exist in the New Heavens and the New Earth "wherein dwelleth righteousness" (II Peter 3:13).
     
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    And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations: And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father. -Revelation 2:26, 27

    This was a promise to the church at Pergamos of something future, therefore not realized in the resurrection, ascension, etc.

    And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. -Revelation 19:15

    This is the Second Coming of Christ because, according to Revelation 2:25-27, it is upon the Second Coming that the saints will reign with Christ (cf. Revelation 20:4-6).

    Revelation 19:15 cannot be referring to the New Heavens and the New Earth because His rule with a "rod of iron" signifies the existence of hostility which will not exist in the New Heavens and the New Earth "wherein dwelleth righteousness" (II Peter 3:13).
     
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