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The Muslim Mind.

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Bunyon, Dec 28, 2005.

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The Muslim Mind.

  1. The majority of middle eastern Muslims want Israel gone and resent America's support of Israel.

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    63.6%

  2. This is only true of a minority of middle eastern Muslims.

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    36.4%

  3. Without conducting a poll, I can have no meaningful opinion.

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  1. Bunyon

    Bunyon New Member

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    What is generally true of Middle Eastern Muslims concerning Isreal and the United States.
     
    #1 Bunyon, Dec 28, 2005
  2. KenH

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    A hateful poll that is up to no good and that does not honor Christ and His church because it is meant to sow discord among brethren.
     
    #2 KenH, Dec 28, 2005
  3. Bunyon

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    No it is meant to see if I am the only one with the opinion. I expressed an opinion and you treated me as if I had done something bad, but I think it is the majority opinion and I don't think it is due to prejudice. But you have accused the "Brethren" of prejudice whenever they give a negative opinion of the Muslim faith and attitude on this board. You guys should not accuse you brothers of prejudice just because their opinion is not in agreement with yours, but you have done it numerous times.

    But I see you did vote, Yes?
     
    #3 Bunyon, Dec 28, 2005
  4. KenH

    KenH Well-Known Member

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    Because your actions and the actions of some other posters in posting what you do is not going to draw Muslims to the gospel of Christ Jesus. You all act like you are trying to drive them away for good.
     
    #4 KenH, Dec 28, 2005
  5. Bunyon

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    I don't see it that way. I went to school with many Muslims and talked with them in depth, and they respected our disagreements. I have said nothing that I did not say to them and they were not offended. And they don't mind making you aware of their neg opinion of certain things American. But perhaps you think they are to simple to realize we have significant religious and political differences.
     
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  6. KenH

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    Then you see it wrong, fella.
     
    #6 KenH, Dec 28, 2005
  7. Bunyon

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    And the ones I knew would not even use the name Israel. They insisted on saying "Zionist entity". Perhaps it was a terrorist cell undercover at my university and therefor, not a good sample, but the attitude was universal and they did not deny it. But they were Middle Easterners, every one.
     
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  8. Joseph_Botwinick

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    Bunyon,

    You can have no meaningful opinion on this issue, let alone cite a statistic of 90% without a poll or some kind of hard data to back it up. Otherwise, all you have is a hateful, prejudiced opinion based, at best, on your limited experiences with some Muslims.

    Joseph Botwinick
     
    #8 Joseph_Botwinick, Dec 28, 2005
  9. KenH

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    Bunyon is the only person, to my knowledge, that I have interacted with on the Internet from New Mexico. I could use him to form the opinion that 90%+ of the people in New Mexico are like him - prejudiced and hateful toward all Muslims. But since I am not like Bunyon, I won't jump to that conclusion.
     
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    I have some very dear friends who are Israeli Citizens, former members of the IDF, and currently waiting to become citizens of the United States. They are of Middle Eastern descent, being from Israel. Further, they are also Iraqi Jews of Arab Descent as well. Chew on that for a while and see how it lines up with your prejudiced view of the imaginary "90%" of Arabs and Middle Easterners

    Joseph Botwinick
     
    #10 Joseph_Botwinick, Dec 28, 2005
  11. Bunyon

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    That is your assumption. And you are welcome to it. But you and Ken always accusing folks of Hate on this board is the real example of prejudice, in my opinion.
     
    #11 Bunyon, Dec 28, 2005
  12. KenH

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    Bunyon is like the fella who eats an unripe persimmon and then bashes all persimmons because of the one unripe one he ate.
     
    #12 KenH, Dec 28, 2005
  13. Bunyon

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    Nothing I have said would relate to Arab Jews who were in the Isreally Army.
     
    #13 Bunyon, Dec 28, 2005
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    The difference between your opinions, assumptions and accusations and ours is that we actually have something concrete to back up what we say: Your posts.

    Joseph Botwinick
     
    #14 Joseph_Botwinick, Dec 28, 2005
  15. Bunyon

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    I don't just base my opinion on my school mates. I see it on the six o'clock news all the time for years, oh, but I forgot, anything that does not agree with your opinion is only being misrepresented by the media.

    Hey look guys. You guys seem to be being very petty and mean spirited and personal. I am not going to engage you with personal attacks and accusations. So that is the last of my comments, I think you should drop it also.
     
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  16. KenH

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    Sorry, Bunyon, but just because I am not the one being beaten up on by you does not mean I am going to pass by on the other side of the road.

    I hope a moderator cans your stupid poll.
     
    #16 KenH, Dec 28, 2005
  17. Joseph_Botwinick

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    I saw on the news the other day that corporate giants were all ratting each other out trying not to face jail time. I guess I can surmise that all corporate giants are evil, greedy, and dishonest. It must be true. I keep seeing more and more examples of it on the news.Thanks for that bit of logic. [​IMG]


    BTW, in case you didn't know...in the news business, if it bleeds, it leads. They don't particularly go out of their way to find good news. Every now and then, it is such a big story that they cannot ignore it (such as the elections in Iraq). But, you know as well as I do, no matter what the issue, that is not what normally makes headlines.

    Joseph Botwinick
     
    #17 Joseph_Botwinick, Dec 28, 2005
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    Careful, Ken. You are starting to sound more like a &lt;gasp&gt; neo-conservative. :eek: [​IMG]

    Joseph Botwinick
     
    #18 Joseph_Botwinick, Dec 28, 2005
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    Sorry, Joseph, for borrowing your analogy. :D
     
    #19 KenH, Dec 28, 2005
  20. Bunyon

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    Like I said that is the end of my comments, it is too bad you two aren't wise enough to accept the better part of valor and drop it.
     
    #20 Bunyon, Dec 28, 2005
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