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The Myth of Republican Conservatism

Discussion in 'Free-For-All Archives' started by JGrubbs, Aug 17, 2004.

  1. Pennsylvania Jim

    Pennsylvania Jim New Member

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    It's a shame, though, that Medved apparently did his best to attack a brother in Christ who is doing all he can to make a difference in American politics.
     
  2. Pennsylvania Jim

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    When the present CP efort started up, I did not expect a huge level of support from the Christian community as a whole, since it is still trapped in the "lesser evil" quagmire.

    I'm not very often taken by surprise in politics, but I must say that the level of scorn and hatred heaped upon the CP and Mr. Peroutka for their Christian stand is more than I expected.
     
  3. church mouse guy

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    Oh, you mean that you are defending Michael Anthony Peroutka because he is a brother in Christ and Michael Medved is a Jew. I misunderstood you. I thought that you were saying that Medved behaved improperly towards his fellow Christian.

    You are still trying to make this a personal issue. It is not. It is a political issue. It deals with same-sex marriage, abolition of foreign aid, ending the war against terror, and the election of Kerry. I think that it is clear that the Constitution Party has become an ally of Kerry.
     
  4. JGrubbs

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    You said that the Constitution Party is only concerned about money and power, I said if you believe that, then you are ignorant about the Constitution Party and their platform. That is not an insult. I am ignorant about many issues. It's not a matter me handling it when someone disagrees with me, I can agree to disagree with anyone who can respectfully do the same, but you accused Peroutka of being an Anti-Semite with no basis whatsoever. You seem to attack and make up false statements on every thread, I have yet to see you actually debate the issues, if you would do that we would either agree on the issues, or agree to disagree.


    I don't think I have attempted to be the moderater. I don't bash Bush, I bash his liberal policies, and the fact that he has done much damage to our Constitutional Republic in the last three and a half years. If you want to bash Peroutka's conservative policies and the issues he stands for, that IS fair play, to call him an Anti-Semite without any foundation is unfair play.


    There are probably alot of books that have come out in the last ten years that both you and I have never read, but that doesn't change how informed about the issues we may be. I DO pay attention to the cultural issues, my age has nothing to do with it, I simply don't know who Medved is, and from what I have learned about him so far, I don't care to know who he is.
     
  5. Pennsylvania Jim

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    Your mis-characterization is despicable. You should be ashamed.
     
  6. Pennsylvania Jim

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    Medved is, IMO, a Sean Hannity with a bit of intelligence.
     
  7. church mouse guy

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    Your mis-characterization is despicable. You should be ashamed. </font>[/QUOTE]No, why don't you explain what you mean. Medved is a Jew, so he is not a brother in Christ. So what are you driving at? I have no idea.
     
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    Too neocon? Too oriental?
     
  9. Pennsylvania Jim

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    Your mis-characterization is despicable. You should be ashamed. </font>[/QUOTE]No, why don't you explain what you mean. Medved is a Jew, so he is not a brother in Christ. So what are you driving at? I have no idea. </font>[/QUOTE]If Medved is not a Christian I stand corrected on that point.

    I have clearly taken my positions based on issues and policies. The fact that I didn't realize that Medved is not a Christian should prove that. Perhaps I mis-read that you were accusing me of bigotry, after a more careful reading I suppose you weren't.
     
  10. Pennsylvania Jim

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    Too neocon? Too oriental? </font>[/QUOTE]Too neocon, for sure. As to oriental, I had no idea that he was. You are usually the one to bring race into the discussion.
     
  11. church mouse guy

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    Race? Jews are oriental people; Israel is an oriental country. Is it racist to call Pennsylvania Jim occidental? LOL!
     
  12. The Galatian

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    I think, when someone tries to put a racist spin on the thread, we should just ignore it, and go on.

    Attention is probably what they want.
     
  13. church mouse guy

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    Listen to the hate pouring out of the right wing. If you have a right winger for a friend, you really don't have a friend at all. Now the categories of oriental and occidental are classified as racist by Pennsylvania Jim and Galatian. It is now hate speech, according to those two, to say that Israel is in the orient and Jews are oriental peoples and Peroutka is occidental. Actually, it is more than hate speech, it is racism.

    This from the Constitution Party that says that Israel is no longer deserving of American foreign aid even if another holocaust ensues.
     
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    Mouse seems to have caught a bad case of Larry's Disease.

    I never said any of the things he just attributed to me.
     
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    Galatian seems to have caught a bad case of Galatian's disease. He supported Pennsylvania Jim's charge of racism.
     
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    Pa Jim wrote
    I have to admit that it took me by surprize also Pa Jim. At first anyway until I realized what a threat a Christian candidate taking a Christiam stand would mean to those that seem to have spent their entire life debating issues in the false left-right paradign.

    Perhaps Mr. Peroutka has read his Bible and applied it to world history and politics enough to actually break through this artificial and deadly deception that the rulers of reality have put in motion to bring their plan to fruition.

    In real reality there is only two great powers at work in the universe that are neither left or right but rather rightousness and unrightousness. All worldly systems such as socialism and capitalism have been fabricated and as such are myths to keep our eyes off from God's truth.
     
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    My apologies, I mispelled the word "paradigm".
     
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    Peroutka enrages many republican Christians, because he asks them to choose what is more important to them.

    They have to decide whether their faith or the GOP comes first.

    And that hurts. Hence the abused heaped on him.
     
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    Pennsylvania Jim and Galatian, you two peas in a pod should give it a rest about how Christian that you are. Besides, you are going to break you arm patting yourselves on your own backs all day long. Most people are glad that the CP is a bust because of its silly ideas about war and the role of the USA in the international community. That and the fact that Peroutka is not the sort of person that anyone with half a brain would want for his lawyer. We already have plenty of ill-tempered lawyers in politics. You two think oriental-occidental is a racial category.
     
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