1. Welcome to Baptist Board, a friendly forum to discuss the Baptist Faith in a friendly surrounding.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to all the features that our community has to offer.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

Featured "The New Calvinism" on PBS

Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by The Archangel, Apr 4, 2014.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. The Archangel

    The Archangel Active Member

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2003
    Messages:
    2,444
    Ratings:
    +0
  2. ~JM~

    ~JM~ Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2007
    Messages:
    224
    Ratings:
    +0
    Bob Faw has wonderful hair.
     
  3. Greektim

    Greektim Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 22, 2010
    Messages:
    3,143
    Ratings:
    +238
    Why did you call this thread "new calvinism"? That term wasn't used. It was just about the resurgence of Calvinism amongst baptists, particularly theSBC,... something they once embraced in the majority.

    This thread is a misnomer.
     
  4. ~JM~

    ~JM~ Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2007
    Messages:
    224
    Ratings:
    +0
    The video on PBS was titled New Calvinism. Blame PBS.
     
  5. The Archangel

    The Archangel Active Member

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2003
    Messages:
    2,444
    Ratings:
    +0
    Yep. I titled the thread what PBS called it. Also, kindly notice the quotation marks around the title.

    The Archangel
     
  6. SolaSaint

    SolaSaint Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 27, 2009
    Messages:
    2,824
    Ratings:
    +56
    Hair? I thought that was a large brillo pad.:laugh:
     
  7. Iconoclast

    Iconoclast Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2010
    Messages:
    13,482
    Ratings:
    +1,737
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Thank you for the helpful link. It shows the fears some have...{Mr.Lemke} showing that they do not grasp the issue clearly.Those who worry about a split will wind up with a split because once people come to these truths they do not shrink back.

    The people are growing tired of the shallow nonsense that has drifted into the church,and have rediscovered the biblical roots.

    Anything with Al Moehler is usually a plus!!!
     
  8. Earth Wind and Fire

    Earth Wind and Fire Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2010
    Messages:
    19,934
    Ratings:
    +366
    Faith:
    Baptist
    We named our son John Calvin....ain't that nice:smilewinkgrin:
     
  9. prophet

    prophet Active Member

    Joined:
    May 8, 2010
    Messages:
    1,037
    Ratings:
    +7
    We named our son : Justus.
    Col 4:11
    11 And Jesus, which is called Justus, who are of the circumcision. These only are my fellowworkers unto the kingdom of God, which have been a comfort unto me.

    We all have our heroes...
     
  10. Greektim

    Greektim Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 22, 2010
    Messages:
    3,143
    Ratings:
    +238
    I should add this sentiment too. I appreciate Archangel pointing this out. Didn't mean to sound abrasive in my above post. Sorry.

    I will probably show this vid to my 10th grade class... they know I'm a Calvie, they think it is crazy, and I just smile at them. Since we talked about the sovereignty of God issue, we looked at a couple different views. I tried to get an Armie and Semi-Pelag to share their views, but they all declined.
     
  11. Tom Butler

    Tom Butler New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2005
    Messages:
    9,031
    Ratings:
    +0
    As a journalist, I think Bob Faw's report was balanced, and captured the essence of the debate within the SBC.

    Name-dropping: I met Bob Faw 25 years ago or so when he was with CBS News and we were covering the same story.
     
  12. Earth Wind and Fire

    Earth Wind and Fire Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2010
    Messages:
    19,934
    Ratings:
    +366
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Here is mine...... but I didn't name the kid "Chesty" :smilewinkgrin:

    BTW (warning) cussing is in this attachment.......it don't bother me but perhaps you ladies might be offended.

    http://www.badassoftheweek.com/puller.html
     
    #12 Earth Wind and Fire, Apr 5, 2014
    Last edited by a moderator: Apr 5, 2014
  13. SolaSaint

    SolaSaint Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 27, 2009
    Messages:
    2,824
    Ratings:
    +56
    :eek:
    Really? :eek:
     
  14. DHK

    DHK <b>Moderator</b>

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2000
    Messages:
    37,982
    Ratings:
    +366
    I thought it was also a good report.

    There is "The New Calvinism." And they preach 'another gospel,' which Paul had something to say about in Gal.1:6-8.
    As the OP stated they are torn between sovereignty and responsibility.
    One can easily see that on this board.
    Some lean so heavily toward sovereignty that they do not see any personal responsibility toward missions any longer. It is all in the sovereignty of God. He has already elect whom he has elected. There is nothing more we can do. Thus the lack of human responsibility.

    They are confused as to what the image of God is. Since, to them, the image of God preludes the free will of man, then the image of God has already become a false premise to begin with.

    There is so much more. New Calvinism is growing, but not because it is biblical.
     
  15. steaver

    steaver Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2004
    Messages:
    9,124
    Ratings:
    +166
    With TULIP being so blatant and clearly being expressed in the scriptures, could we conclude the Holy Spirit is failing to teach this truth to the children of God seeing how most Christians simply don't believe it? Or, could it be that those who do not see the obvious are simply still blinded in unbelief and not Christians at all?
     
  16. kyredneck

    kyredneck Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2009
    Messages:
    10,839
    Ratings:
    +748
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Wow, a thread that lay dormant on this forum for 8 months and was not closed.

    Squire, you're slipping.
     
    #16 kyredneck, Dec 11, 2014
    Last edited by a moderator: Dec 11, 2014
  17. The Archangel

    The Archangel Active Member

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2003
    Messages:
    2,444
    Ratings:
    +0
    Your evaluation is quite problematic. Not every "New Calvinist" is a hyper-Calvinist--I expect you know that to some extent--so this is an intentional overstatement.

    New Calvinism itself is not "another gospel." By flagrantly and falsely calling it such, you call into question the salvation of any and all who identify with the New Calvinism, something clearly against the rules that you are supposed to be enforcing.

    Of course, if a Calvinist were to categorize some "New Arminianism" as "another gospel" you'd probably be raining down all sorts of "moderator" indignation. How can you presume to moderate us when you seem unable moderate yourself????

    Why is it that my "foxes guarding the hen house" comments are almost always proved to be right????

    The Archangel
     
  18. Revmitchell

    Revmitchell Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2006
    Messages:
    39,128
    Ratings:
    +2,358
    Faith:
    Baptist
    There are few if any actual arminians on this board.
     
  19. Squire Robertsson

    Squire Robertsson Administrator
    Administrator

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2000
    Messages:
    9,959
    Ratings:
    +904
    Faith:
    Baptist
    This thread isn't even close to 100 posts. So, there's probably some juice still in it.
     
  20. Salty

    Salty 20,000 Posts Club
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2003
    Messages:
    22,705
    Ratings:
    +658
    Faith:
    Baptist
    And it wasn't even me who bumped it!

    Must have been pre-destined for that to happened, whether I wanted it or not :smilewinkgrin:
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
Loading...