The NIV: Gods Word?

KJVBT,

If you like you can drop me a message if you want to have a private conversation. I work odd hours so I may not be able to reply the same day.

In Christ,
David J. Horn

 

Old Timer:Great post thumper! Yeah it has been posted before but NEVER refuted.

I beg to differ. Everything he's posted was refuted before he was born. And which point are you referring to by "it"?


The TRUTH of the KJV is only disputed here never by a serious student of GOD's word.

But the truth of the KJVO myth is very heavily disputed by every REALLY serious student of God's word because there ISN'T any truth to KJVO.


I guess we should not expect someone to take he's word too serious.
Have you ever seen as much blather as you do in <attack deleted> posts?

Ya know, you actually COULD reduce some of our posts to blather if you could provide any SCRIPTURAL evidence supporting the KJVO myth. Till then, it remains a myth, same as any other tall tale.

 

I have not been able to verify this particular piece of information. This is just as sick as people calling King James homosexual with little or questionable proof. Both sides should be ashamed of themselves.

AVL1984

 

DavidJ writes:>>>Lets look at the reading level issues

1. Do you honesty think that the KJV is easier to read then the NIV?

Ruth 4:1,"Then went Boaz up to the gate, and sat him down there: and, behold, the kinsman of whom Boaz spake came by; unto whom he said, Ho, such a one! turn aside, sit down here. And he turned aside, and sat down." KJV

Ruth 4:1,"Meanwhile Boaz went up to the town gate and sat there. When the kinsman-redeemer he had mentioned came along, Boaz said, "Come over here, my friend, and sit down." So he went over and sat down." NIV

Philemon 1:20,"Yea, brother, let me have joy of thee in the Lord: refresh my bowels in the Lord." KJV

Philemon 1:20,"I do wish, brother, that I may have some benefit from you in the Lord; refresh my heart in Christ." NIV

Acts 28:13,"And from thence we fetched a compass, and came to Rhegium: and after one day the south wind blew, and we came the next day to Puteoli:" KJV

Acts 28:13,"From there we set sail and arrived at Rhegium. The next day the south wind came up, and on the following day we reached Puteoli." NIV

2. Why must we use an 1828 dictionary in order to understand the KJV?

3. How many archaic words are in the KJV vs. the NIV?

AVL1984:>>>>>DavidJ, why don't you look at the whole of the KJV and be honest instead of trying to find the easiest verses you can to try and prove your point. I find this less than honest of you in trying to prove your point. Many kjVERSION Only preachers recommend the 1828 Websters for understanding the KJV. This helps to prove their point even further.

AVL1984

 

Thumper,

I do appreciate your attempt at this. I know that you put forth what information you had gathered that backed up your point.

But can I say something, and give you an honest opinion?

Your sources are the downfall of your whole exercise. Most of them are laughable (your sources, not you). Ripplinger is an embarrassment to the KJVO camp in general. Gipp is just a step above her. Yet, you cite two works from each.

I checked out your sources by looking in the database of a local Christian college/seminary (it ain't Baptist, but I can use their library with a local library card). The only author that was listed as being in their entire library (and they have a huge one!) was Let's Weigh The Evidence by Burton, and it was flagged as "Bible--Versions" and "Modernist-fundamentalist controversy". That tells me that this university (Lee University, a liberal arts college run by the Church of God) has no use for the likes of your sources.

Now, this is not an attack, but an honest observation. You and I have butted heads before. All I am saying is that you have cobbled together a bunch of "stuff" from the likes of those you have read. Now, go out and read something other than KJV hate mongers. Look and see if what these authors you have been reading are telling you "like it really is", or are they spinning their own litle version of the truth.

You owe it to yourself to find out.

In Christ,
Trotter

 

I appreciate Trotter's spirit, KJVBT.

Another comment along those lines. I am not sure if you did thispaper for your own research, or for school. You may have mentioned that before and I apologise if I missed it.

I assume you posted thisin rough draft form since you were working quickly to get it posted.

As a teacher, I would point out that true research looks into all sides of an issue. It appears that you used sources that only support your particular point of view. Might I suggest that you expnad your research to some other sources?

 

Don't have time, or energy, to read all posts here so I don't know if this has been touched upon already.

I cut and paste my question on this thing from another thread.

Please, if anyone knows the answer:

Thanks.

 

I don't believe you'll find anyone here believing that rag is a valid Bible.

"Oh, but surely there will be somebody who will be upset with you for slandering "their" bible, who they claim the Holy Spirit has led them to, eh?"

 

Not here in this board.

 

So as I see it, everyone loves the kjBible, but not all mv's are acceptable, correct?

 

That would certainly describe me.

...and my list of acceptable "mv"s is very short.

 

Thank you. That's how I've come to view all this.

 

Oops...not meaning that's how "I" myself, sees it, but what I've come to realize that many on the Board see it.

 

Would you care to share that list with us? And tell us what makes them acceptable.

 

Nope - not going to feed the fires of this ugly debate.

 

OK

 

Here is a list of the Bibles I use

http://www.baptistboard.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi/topic/4/1823.html?

 

KJVBibleThumper,

Thank you for this update. I am looking forward to your response tomorrow.