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"The Passion of the Christ" supporters thread

Discussion in '2004 Archive' started by dianetavegia, Mar 16, 2004.

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  1. dianetavegia

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    I posted last week that my friend Jennie was taking her unsaved relatives to see the movie this past Friday. Her niece went forward on Sunday for salvation counseling. Her name is Meaghan.

    Another good report... since seeing the movie, I've noticed my husband is spending hours in his Bible versus a short Bible time and a lot of magazine (sports and stereo) time!

    Diane
     
    #21 dianetavegia, Mar 22, 2004
  2. sparkle

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    Hi, all! It's nice to have a thread without all of the divisiveness. I've just gotten done reading one of the other threads and my goodness! I have a long LONG post ready to go, but I really have to pray about it. It truly seems futile to post anything positive about this movie on some of the other threads. What do you think?
     
    #22 sparkle, Mar 23, 2004
  3. Barnabas H.

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    So that means you do not want to have my constructive criticism, huh?! [​IMG] OK, I can take a hint.... [​IMG] :rolleyes:
     
    #23 Barnabas H., Mar 23, 2004
  4. dianetavegia

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    DELETE DELETE DELETE... still works! ;) ;)

    Just kidding Barnabas! [​IMG]
     
    #24 dianetavegia, Mar 23, 2004
  5. 4-christ

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    I THINK THAT PASSION OF THE CHRIST WAS A MOVIE tO OPEN AMERICAS EYES SO THAT THE SINNERS COULD BE SAVED.
     
    #25 4-christ, Mar 23, 2004
  6. dianetavegia

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    I think you're right sweetie! I've personally known one young woman who went for salvation counseling after seeing the movie and talking about what Christ did for us with her aunt.

    My husband is spending hours reading scripture at night instead of playing his piano or reading sports magazines since we viewed the movie.

    Diane
     
    #26 dianetavegia, Mar 23, 2004
  7. bb_baptist

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    DOHA (Qatar) March 23 - It's been full house each day at the three main cinemas in Qatar and seat bookings have stretched for days ahead as Qatar notched another first by being the first Gulf Arab country to screen the controversial Mel Gibson epic "Passion of Christ". The film debuted in Qatar on Sunday.

    The same day, newspapers in the United Arab Emirates reported with much fanfare that local censors there had cleared the movie for release in the glamorous regional hub Dubai on that day.

    In Lebanon, Passion broke all previous opening records during its release last Thursday with 58,337 admissions in its opening weekend or 80 per cent of all box office admissions for the week.

    The film was released last Wednesday in Jordan and last Thursday in Syria, where it broke opening weekend box office records.

    In Egypt, the film got the censors' approval last Saturday and is slated to be released on March 31.

    Debsi said approval from the authorities in Bahrain, Kuwait and Oman was pending.

    http://www.utusan.com.my/utusan/content.asp?y=2004&dt=0324&pub=Utusan_Express&sec=Entertainment&pg=en_01.htm
     
    #27 bb_baptist, Mar 25, 2004
  8. dianetavegia

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    'Passion of Christ' moves man to confess killing 'suicide' victim

    By ERIC HANSON
    Copyright 2004 Houston Chronicle


    RICHMOND -- Detectives say the death of a 19-year-old woman originally ruled a suicide has turned into a murder case after a repentant man who'd watched The Passion of the Christ confessed to killing her because she was carrying his child.

    Fort Bend County Sheriff's Detective Mike Kubricht said today that investigators thought Ashley Nicole Wilson had hanged herself in January. Earlier this month, however, 21-year-old Dan R. Leach of Rosenberg turned himself in after watching Mel Gibson's controversial movie about the last hours of Christ's life and Leach decided to seek redemption, Kubricht said.

    The young woman's body was found by her mother Jan. 19 in her Richmond-area apartment. The Harris County Medical Examiner ruled her death a suicide caused by asphyxia due to external compression with a ligature.

    Then, on March 7, Leach, who had known the victim for many years, walked into the Fort Bend County Sheriff's Department headquarters and confessed to killing her. RESOURCES
    • Read the indictment against Dan Randall Leach II

    Kubricht said Leach told investigators he carefully planned the killing to make it look like a suicide. The suspect allegedly strangled Wilson because he did not want to raise her unborn child or be involved with her anymore, Kubricht said.

    A grand jury indicted Leach Monday and he was arrested the next day. He is being held on $100,000 bond.

    www.drudgereport.com
     
    #28 dianetavegia, Mar 25, 2004
  9. I Am Blessed 24

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  10. bb_baptist

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    Add another $37.5 million for international receipts.

     
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  11. bb_baptist

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    Mel Gibson's drama smashed Fox opening records in Argentina, Venezuela, Uruguay, Bolivia and the Dominican Republic, notching industry highs in Venezuela and Bolivia. Argentina delivered an estimated $788,000 on 127 screens and Venezuela generated $405,000 on 78.

    Crucifixion tale reigned in its second chapter in Mexico, grossing $3.2 million (falling by a reasonable 34%), upping the market cume to a stellar $11.2 million; and in Brazil, minting $1.8 million (up 1%), scoring $4.8 million thus far. Pic also ruled in Taiwan, nailing approximately $364,000 on 41. Fox, which has the rights in Latin America and parts of Asia, projected the weekend's take at $9.1 million on around 2,024 screens, elevating the cume in its markets to $25.1 million.

    In the U.K., "Passion" aroused a projected $2.9 million, fractionally ahead of fellow frosh "Dawn of the Dead." That would bring the biblical epic's market total to $4.4 million, including two weeks in Ireland. As a rough estimate, pic has collected around $52 million abroad.

    http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117902427?categoryid=13&cs=1
     
    #31 bb_baptist, Mar 29, 2004
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    During my Wednesday evening "Growth Group" we are using a DVD series put out by PurposeDriven Ministries, called "The Passion, The Purpose & Person of Jesus Christ".

    We have two rather recent believers (one's only 6 weeks old). The questions in the booklet provoke a deep respect for the work of Christ on the Cross. Discussion about the blood of Christ and how (in the movie) the blood touched everyone near Him, was interesting, to say the least.

    God can and is working His wonders through this movie. Lives are being changed. Devotion to Him is being deepened.

    Rob
     
    #32 Deacon, Mar 31, 2004
  13. tinytim

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    The movie is finally at our local theater.
    Our church has 250 seats sold out tommorrow night.
    I will finally get to see it. I've been waiting to see it with my church family.
     
    #33 tinytim, Apr 6, 2004
  14. dianetavegia

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    Many Christians have steadfastly refused to go to "R" rated movies because their gratuitous violence, overt sexual content, and vulgar language. So why have so many looked past the "R" rating and gone to this one? You might find this explanation found, repeatedly on the Internet, a pretty good explanation.

    The "R" of course is because of the violence -- the gore of the scourging and the cruelty of the Cross.

    In movie terms "R" usually stands for RESTRICTED. In The Passion, "R" stands for RELEVANT, for REALISTIC, for it REALLY happened for a REASON because we were REBELIOUS we needed a REDEEMER. Yes, we needed to be RECONCILED and we needed to be RECOVERED. We needed to be REGENERATED. Jesus needed to be REJECTED so that we could have a RELATIONSHIP with God, not just a RELIGION about God.

    The "R" is to REMIND us to REMEMBER what Jesus did to REMOVE our sin and to RENDER Satan powerless to our RESCUE from eternity in hell.

    The "R" rating is to show that Jesus was RESPONSIBLE for giving you REST. As a RESULT of his death, Jesus RETIRED your debt and RETURNED you to God.

    The "R" rating means that some will be REPULSED, some will REFUSE to believe, some will be RELUCTANT, and some will think you are RIDICULOUS in believing that a death was REQUIRED.

    The "R" rating means that the RESULT of sin has been REVERSED and that now through faith in Christ, you can be REBORN and your REWARD is eternity because you are now RIGHTEOUS before God. You have RECEIVED him as the RULER of your soul and you have been RESTORED in your walk with God. What a REVOLUTIONARY and RADICAL solution to REDEEM humankind!

    By Anonymous
     
    #34 dianetavegia, Apr 6, 2004
  15. dianetavegia

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    The Tear from God's Eye, by Rubel Shelly

    Since God chose you to be the holy people whom he loves, you must clothe yourselves with tenderhearted mercy, kindness, humility, gentleness, and patience.
    (Colossians 3:12)

    One of the wonderful things about art is its subtle ambiguities. The smile of the Mona Lisa. A poet's turn of phrase. The haunting refrain of a piece of music. Or a stunning visual metaphor in a movie. It is precisely the ambiguity of these words, sounds, and sights that creates multiple interpretations.

    Toward the end of Mel Gibson's The Passion of the Christ comes the one scene that took me completely off-guard. Since I had read the book before going to see the movie, I knew the story line. The central characters were identifiable. Even the subtler references to persons and events not detailed in the movie were easy to pick up. But one jolted me.

    With Jesus lifted up on the cross, there is a distant and strange new camera angle. It is not a panorama of the hillside. It is not the crowd through Jesus' eyes. It is a glimpse from what I first thought was outer space! It seemed that we were looking in on Earth from Mars or the moon. I was disoriented and raced in my mind to figure out what was happening.

    Then it appeared that something other than a line of sight was closing in on the scene at Golgotha. The camera was focusing, but it was following something. It is a crystal sphere of some sort, I thought. No, it is the first drop of a rainstorm that is about to pelt the ground. It was neither!

    It was a single tear. Falling from millions of miles away. Landing at the base of the cross. Initiating a shudder on Planet Earth that rattled temple and courtroom, marketplace and home, the living and the dead. It was a tear from the eye of God Almighty - seeing and caring and grieving from his throne.

    I have no idea if my interpretation is the director's intent. You may have seen the very same moment in the film and viewed it altogether differently. But my take on it is right - for me.

    Reared in a culture that despised ambiguity, I was taught to seek and defend the single correct way to interpret everything. In the scientific model of my generation, there was a formula that would generate the right outcome. In the religious culture of my life, there was one true reading of every text that eliminated every other. But is that really so?

    It is not simply art that is filled with enigmatic phrases and metaphors. Life itself is a series of snapshots set in a narrative for which God alone has total context. Thus we have put ourselves in his place to see and read, interpret and conclude, judge and pronounce. Perhaps we have not thought enough about the humility appropriate to our station as frail mortals.

    And I can imagine that conceit giving birth to a tear in God's eye.

    God sets himself against the proud, but he shows favor to the humble. (1 Peter 5:5)

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    (c) 2004 Used by permission. From Rubel Shelly's "FAX of Life" printed each Tuesday. See Faith Matters
     
    #35 dianetavegia, Apr 7, 2004
  16. tinytim

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    I love the movie after seeing it the first time last night. I did go in knowing what to look for from reading the threads here at BB. I did notice the RC influence and the stations of the cross, but I expected that coming from a RC. I was also amazed at the scenes that depicted some great art piece.
    But IMHO it wasn't as gory as I had expected.
    I believe Mel held back some.
    I also would have loved to see somehow more emphasis put on his bearing our sins.

    Mel could have had a flash forward while jesus was on the cross that would have shown differing sins down throught the ages. From wars to the holocaust, to abortions, etc.

    Afterall, while He was on the cross, I was on his mind!

    From reading threads on BB, I went in the theater looking as a scholar would at the movie, and i had made up my mind that I was going to keep my emotions in tact.

    Didn't work, I was fine until the first nail went in. I lost it!!!
    It was if I was nailing him there.
    I guess in reality I was!

    I have one question. Why was Mary wiping up the blood after Christ was scourged? What is the symbolization there? Is there a RC influence to it?

    I have to admit, and I feel guilty for thinking it, but the first thing that went through my mind was, "Yeah, that's just like my mom, cleaning up after me!"

    And did you all get the Table part? I loved the comedy relief in that part.

    Overall i really liked it.
    Tim.
     
    #36 tinytim, Apr 8, 2004
  17. dianetavegia

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    ANY negative remarks will be deleted without explanation.

    Please remember that this is the ONE thread where supporters of this movie may speak freely with no threat of rebuke. This is with Webmaster's permission.
     
    #37 dianetavegia, Apr 8, 2004
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    Our youth group purchased 150 tickets so the youth could take their lost friends.

    Our youth minister offered an invitaiton at the end. 8 youth responded, and 8 others who didn't come with our group also responded.
     
    #38 SaggyWoman, Apr 10, 2004
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    #39 Deacon, Apr 10, 2004
  20. tinytim

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    Please remember that this is the ONE thread where supporters of this movie may speak freely with no threat of rebuke. This is with Webmaster's permission. </font>[/QUOTE]Diane, I hope this wasn't directed at me, because I am a "Passion supporter", I was just curious about a couple things.

    Just because i see a few RC themes in the Passion does not make it a bad movie. Things that are RC are not necessarily bad. I believe I have a lot of RC brothers and sisters in Christ. I am sorry if what i wrote sounded negative. I will defend the movie with the best of them because i have seen Godly fruits from it already.

    After the movie, our pastor gave an invitation and one of my youth went forward to rededicate her life. She was on fire Wed. night at our Tenabrae service.
    An adult went forward too.
    The movie has our whole town talking.

    I have no negative remarks, just some questions about what things meant to others that saw the movie. I saw nothing in it that cantradicts scripture. remember John wrote:

    "Joh 21:25 And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen."

    Just because something is in the movie that is not in the Bible doesn't mean it couldn't have happened.

    I'll be away for a couple weeks because I have to take my youngest son to Cleveland Clinic for some monitoring. (He had brain surgery last Oct)
    But rest assured I liked the movie!!

    Thanks, Tim
     
    #40 tinytim, Apr 10, 2004
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