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The people powering the Paul phenomenon

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by poncho, Nov 3, 2007.

  1. carpro

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    But it won't work. Instead, the fools lose their opportunity to participate in the process of selecting the nominee they really intend to vote for.

    Twisted thinking coupled with poor strategy.

    But what's really pathetic is the genuine Paul supporters that refuse to recognize what's going on.:BangHead:
     
  2. poncho

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    It's no more pathetic than genuine neocon supporters that refuse to recoginze what's been going on, in plain sight right under their noses. :BangHead:
     
  3. carpro

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    Seems a little off topic, but just for the sake of seeing which CT you want to advance this time...

    What are you referring to?
     
  4. KenH

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    1) That'll be the day. :rolleyes:

    2) You might want to use Frontline.
     
  5. KenH

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    If we don't give up I think that one day the majority of the American people will finally see the neo-cons for the plague on the American body politic that they truly are.
     
  6. poncho

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    The same one the founders of the United States were refering to. It might be just another "CT" to you but it's all been documented and proven time and again all through out history enough for James and I both. (see Madison quote below)

    Now it's so close and in plain sight it should be making your nose tickle. :smilewinkgrin:

    You've been neo-CONNED!
     
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    See, that is where you are incorrect, Ken. I am merely trying to get the truth out about Ron Paul, but from what I read the truth is already well-known about him and the half-truths being told on his behalf are not selling to very many people.
     
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    I've often wondered that myself.
     
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    That is good. :thumbs:
     
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    Well, I can't see why a Kentuckian would be for a libertarain who is going to allow the culture of abortion and the practice of abortion to continue in states like California, which George Will says will continue practicing abortion if the matter is turned over to the states. I should think that Ron Paul in practice is actually weaker on abortion than Giuliani, who might support the Reagan plank as a compromise with conservatives. However, Ron Paul will never compromise and support the Reagan plank because he suggests that the founding fathers were almost incorrect in allowing provision for the amendment of the constitution. Do you follow me?

    Anyway, Clinton, a loyal Democrat, follows her party's explicit pro-choice culture of death platform.

    I think that it is too early to say that Rudy has won. It is the Democrats who had to start this race early in order to sell Hillary, their only possible candidate. She is still difficult to sell to the American public. The GOP has been moving slowly. I think that Fred Thompson is in a very good postion as I think that the race will be stopped until next year. I know that I hope to avoid much political discussion once the elections are over Tuesday.

    I voted the straight Republican ticket absentee because I have to work all day and cannot easily leave to vote. I have never been a libertarian and I have never been an independent.
     
  11. Dagwood

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    I too work for a living, so I will vote a straight democratic ticket!
     
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    Sad really.
     
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    Fred Thompson agrees with Ron Paul's position on this issue:

    MR. RUSSERT: This is the 2004 Republican Party platform, and here it is: “We say the unborn child has a fundamental individual right to life which cannot be infringed. We support a human life amendment to the Constitution,” “we endorse legislation to make it clear that the Fourteenth Amendment’s protections apply to unborn children. Our purpose is to have legislative and judicial protection of that right against those who perform abortions.” Could you run as a candidate on that platform, promising a human life amendment banning all abortions?

    MR. THOMPSON: No.
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    MR. THOMPSON: No. I have always—and that’s been my position the entire time I’ve been in politics. I thought Roe v. Wade was wrongly decided. I think this platform originally came out as a response to particularly Roe v. Wade because of that. Before Roe v. Wade, states made those decisions. I think people ought to be free at state and local levels to make decisions that even Fred Thompson disagrees with. That’s what freedom is all about. And I think the diversity we have among the states, the system of federalism we have where power is divided between the state and the federal government is, is, is—serves us very, very well. I think that’s true of abortion. I think Roe v. Wade hopefully one day will be overturned, and we can go back to the pre-Roe v. Wade days. But...

    MR. RUSSERT: Each state would make their own abortion laws.

    MR. THOMPSON: Yeah. But, but, but to, to, to have an amendment compelling—going back even further than pre-Roe v. Wade, to have a constitutional amendment to do that, I do not think would be the way to go.

    - www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21623208/
     
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    Determining that you will vote a straight party ticket before you know who's running is what we call in Texas a Yaller Dawg Dimcrat. A brainless creature that would vote for a Hugo Chavez or The Ayatollah Khomeini if they could get on the ticket.

    As nutty as the radical fringe groups are that control the democrat party, even that is possible.
     
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    No, I was not saying that I voted GOP because I work all day--I was saying that I voted absentee because I could not easily leave work to go to the polls. And I did vote the straight Republican ticket in our muncipal elections here in Indiana this year.

    Libertarians do not appeal to me because I think they are too permissive on social issues just like the Democrats are. I think that Independents have given us divided government and have put themselves and their personal concerns ahead of the country. As for the Democrats, they should go out of business like the Whigs, for example. The Democrats are responsible for abortion and the sewer of blood underneath this nation's facade of prosperity.
     
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    Okay, thanks, Ken! I will unlean from Fred Thompson and say that I am not leaning towards anyone now. These guys are going to all have to deal with Phyllis Schafly before they can be elected.
     
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    Looks like the appropriate thread to analyze: The Convict Powering the Thompson Phenomenon.
     
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    Even before I read your response, I have thought about my posting during the day at work and realize that in this instance I have been wrong.

    I will not commit to voting a straight ticket for the democrats, although I do lean that direction.

    The one thing that might cause me to change is the immigration issue. I have come to the conclusion that something must be done to stop this flood of illegals coming into the country before it is too late.

    Actually, the more I hear from most of the candidates of both parties makes me wonder if anyone sees this issue as being as important as I think it is.
     
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    Only Ron Paul & Tom Tancredo.
     
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