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The Pilgrim's Progress

Discussion in 'Computers & Technology Forum' started by Aaron, Dec 31, 2002.

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  1. Aaron

    Aaron Member
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    I received permission from the webmaster to design some Pilgrim's Progress pages that will correspond to our readings to be uploaded on the BB. [​IMG]

    I sure would like some suggestions for formatting, headers, buttons, etc.

    Whould anyone like to design fancy first letters?

    This will be a very lengthy process, so I'm putting them up on my own web space for now. When they're finalized they will be moved over.

    Will someone help me?

    Check out the first one. click here

    I wanted to incorporate the full Scripture texts and notes from the margins into the main text itself. I set the Scriptures apart by making them red, and the margin notes green.
     
    #1 Aaron, Dec 31, 2002
  2. MissAbbyIFBaptist

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    That is neat! Great Job Aaron!
     
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  3. Abiyah

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    I wish I could see your work, but my ridiculous
    system only gives me a big blank page. 8o( Sorry.
     
    #3 Abiyah, Jan 1, 2003
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    Apreciate the link to see what you're doing. I am not a fan of Pilgrim's Progress, but evidently there are some. I will allow them the privilege of assisting you in this project.
     
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  5. Aaron

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    Really? The page is only text. That is wierd. [​IMG]
     
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  6. Aaron

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    Please check these out and tell me what you think. I'm especially interested in those with older browsers and Netscape especially. I have IE 5.5, so I know how it looks there.

    Introduction

    In the Intro. I indented by typing three upper case Z's and coloring them white.

    Do you see the indentations, or are the Z's visible?

    I have finally decided on a format for the Pilgrim's Progress pages.

    Reading 4

    I wanted the formatting to follow the old printed version as much as possible. The headings at the left are mine, the notations and Scripture citations at the right are Bunyan's. I wanted Bunyan's notations to correspond to the line of text in the body as they do in the printed version. Unfortunately this breaks up the paragraphs, so to let the reader know where the paragraphs are, I used the paragraph sign (ΒΆ).

    If the white Z's work, I might just use indentations instead.

    Opinions?
     
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  7. Aaron

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    Ah! I found your feed back in the other forum. Thanks. [​IMG]

    [ February 01, 2003, 05:40 PM: Message edited by: Aaron ]
     
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  8. Aaron

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    I made my own fancy first letters by creating them in Publisher and copying them to PaperPort. Then I converted them to JPEG, but they aren't as sharp as I'd like them.

    click here

    Any advice?
     
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  9. bb_baptist

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    The page looks great! [​IMG]

    I would suggest that you add a menu on top of the page to all the other readings.
     
    #9 bb_baptist, Feb 5, 2003
  10. Aaron

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    I'm working on a template for a menu, but I have a hard time getting menus to look like a natural part of the page.

    The web publisher I use is AOLpress. I hear Microsoft Publisher has web publishing capabilities but my version is 2.0a and I'm too cheap to upgrade!

    AOLpress is free and is truly WYSIWYG.

    It makes using tables a snap!

    I have to go into the HTML and tweak it here and there to get it to do just what I want it to do, but for the most part its a very user-friendly tool.
     
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  11. Clint Kritzer

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    Hi Aaron -

    The letters aren't as crisp as you would like because they get kind of "bitmappy" when they are enlarged. I took your letter "C" and copied it into Microsoft Paint and played with the line tool and eraser for a while. When I pasted it into Paint, I went to "Image" on the toolbar and then went to "Attributes" and zoomed in to 400% so it was easier to see what I was doing. There were also small stray pieces of grey pixels that created a "cloud" around the work. I got rid of them with the paint can.

    I uploaded this image as a GIF instead of a JPEG. That should hold a bit more resolution, though with such a small black and white image it probably is rather irrelevant. The doctored image is on the left. I put the original next to it for comparison.

    http://www.churches.net/churches/fubc/Aaron's%20Letter%20C.gif

    It took about ten or fifteen minutes to do what I did. The more time you spend, the sharper you can get it. It's pretty tedious. Hit "Save" a LOT! It's a drag to have to go back and do all the same work again because of one mistake.
     
    #11 Clint Kritzer, Feb 6, 2003
  12. Clint Kritzer

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    Margie made a website on using Paint for making icons a couple years ago for her recertification. She goes into quite a bit of depth on using the different tools. You might find it useful.

    She used Tripod at the time because it was free but we were unaware of how indiscriminate the banners would be. I apologize in advance for whatever ad or pop up you may see. :rolleyes:

    http://art_with_kritzer.tripod.com/createanicon/

    Here's the page on using the ZOOM feature:

    http://art_with_kritzer.tripod.com/createanicon/id3.html
     
    #12 Clint Kritzer, Feb 6, 2003
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    I'm not much on images, but if I may...you might consider using IrfanView or another program to save them as .png files. Comparable to .gif, but it seems to me like they get a bit more clarity.

    Also, you might consider starting with a slightly larger image (watch out for file size), and set the attributes in the html tag to make it smaller (i.e., width="50%"). Should get better resolution.
     
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  14. Aaron

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    Thanks for the tips. I'll look into them. [​IMG]
     
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  15. LindaB

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    hey there
    i'll help you out, i just need details, exact sizes, font you need, etc
    drop me a note here
    [email protected]
    Linda
    christiangraphicdesign.com
     
    #15 LindaB, Feb 6, 2003
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    Thanks for the links, Clint.
     
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  17. Aaron

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    Thank you, Linda. I'm not sure what all letters I will need quite yet, but I'll send you that info in an email in a couple of days. [​IMG]
     
    #17 Aaron, Feb 7, 2003
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