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THE PUZZLE TO SOLVE.

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  1. Alex2165

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    THE PUZZLE TO SOLVE.

    The number 480 years from the Exodus to construction of Solomon's Temple recorded in 1Kings 6.1 raises a question about this period of time.

    In Acts 13.19 of KSB, NRSV, and GNB Bibles, Paul wrote that the conquest and distribution of the land of Canaan after Exodus from Egypt took 450 years.

    In Acts 13.20 of Gideons and Russian Bibles, it is written that the period of Judges was 450 years.

    In any case, 480 years from the Exodus of Egypt and to beginning of construction of the Temple looks too small if we put inside of 480 years span of time 450 years of Judges or the conquest of Canaan, which is the same number ether way.

    The gap between 480 and 450 only 30 years long, and from the period of Exodus to beginning of construction of the Temple, this 30 years leaves no room for such periods of time as:

    Time of traveling in the desert, 40 years.

    Time of Eli the priest, 40 years. 1Samuel 4.18

    Time of Samuel, which is unknown (most likely 20 years or more).

    Time of Saul's rule. 2 years in most Bibles, but KSB Bible indicates 32 years, which is certainly a right number. 1Samuel 13.1

    Time of David's rule, 40 years. 1Kings 2.10-11

    Time of Solomon who started building the Temple in the 4th year of his reign. 1Kings.6.1.

    In summary, from the Exodus and to the Solomon's Temple we have: 450+40+40+20+32+40+4=626 years.

    This number of 626 looks much more reasonable than 480 mentioned in 1Kings.6.1.
     
  2. Alofa Atu

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    Adam (Genesis 1:26-31, 2:7,8,15-25) is the 'first man' (1 Corinthians 15:45,47; Luk 3:38), who was 'made' 'in the beginning' (Matthew 19:4; Mark 10:6), and he was made in the 6th day before the 7th Day (Mark 2:27). 'All the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years' (Genesis 5:5). We do not know the exact age when Adam had Cain and Abel, but we are given the age of Adam when he had Seth, being at 130 years old (Genesis 5:3) who came after Cain and Abel (Genesis 4:25).

    Beginning with Adam, using AM (Anno Mundi; Latin for Year of the World):

    0000 - 0000 - Adam (930) + 130 (Seth; Gen. 5:4; Luk 3:38) + 800 (died; Gen 5:4)
    0000 - ???? - Cain (??? born) (??? died; Rom 6:3; Heb 9:27)
    0000 - ???? - Abel (??? born) (??? died; Gen 4:8)
    0000 - 0130 - Seth (912) (Gen 4:25; Luk 3:38) + 105 (Enos; Gen 5:5; Luk 3:38) + 807 (died; Gen 5:8)
    0000 - ???? - wife of Cain, daughter of Adam/Eve (??? born; Gen 5:4) (??? died; Rom 6:3; Heb 9:27)
    0130 - 0235 - Enos (905) (Gen 4:26; Luk 3:38) + 90 (Cainan; Gen 5:9; Luk 3:37) + 815 (died; Gen 5:11)
    0235 - 0325 - Cainan (910) (Gen 5:9; Luk 3:37) + 70 (Mahalaleel; Gen 5:12; Luk 3:37) + 840 (died; Gen 5:14)
    0325 - 0395 - Mahalaleel (895) (Gen 5:12; Luk 3:37) + 65 (Jared; Gen 5:15; Luk 3:37) + 830 (died; Gen 5:16)
    0395 - 0460 - Jared (962) (Gen 5:15; Luk 3:37) + 162 (Enoch; Gen 55:18; Luk 3:37) + 800 (died; Gen 5:20)
    0460 - 0622 - Enoch (365) (Gen 5:18; Luk 3:37) + 65 (Methuselah; Gen 5:21; Luk 3:37) + 300 (trans.; Gen. 5:24)
    0622 - 0687 - Methuselah (969) (Gen 5:21; Luk 3:37) + 187 (Lamech; Gen 5:25; Luk 3:36) + 782 (died; Gen 5:27)
    0687 - 0874 - Lamech (777) (Gen 5:25; Luk 3:36) + 182 (Noah; Gen 5:28,29; Luk 3:36) + 595 (died; Gen 5:31)
    0874 - 1056 - Noah (950) (Gen 5:28,29; Luk 3:36) + 500 (Gen 5:32) + 100 (Gen 7:6,11) + 350 (died; Gen 9:28,29)
    1056 - 1656 - Flood (600th year of Noah's life; 2nd month; 17th day; Gen 7:6,11)

    Flood – Year (AM 1656; or 600th year of Noah's life), Month (2nd), Day (17th) Gen 7:6,11.

    1656 - 1657 – Flood (AM 1656, 2nd, 17th + 40 days/nights (Gen 7:12,17) + 150 days (Gen 7:24, 8:3) = Ark resting on Mts. Of Ararat (Gen 8:4; AM 1656, 7th, 17th) + water decreases 73-75 days (Gen 8:5; exclusive-inclusive; 30 day months; AM 1656, 10th, 1st) + 40 days, Noah opens window (Gen 8:6; AM 1656, 11th, 11th) + 35 days (calculated) waiting for Raven, sends Dove (Gen 8:7,8) + 7 days wait (Gen 8:10) + 7 more days wait (Gen 8:12) = 601st, 1st, 1st (Gen 8:13) wherein Noah removes covering, and waits + 56-57 days (exclusive-inclusive) until = 601st, 2nd, 27th = AM 1657 2nd, 27th (Gen 8:14-16) when Noah leaves the Ark.

    Noah was 600 Years old when the Flood came, and he was 601 when he left the Ark. We have texts which shows that Noah had three sons (Gen 5:32, 6:10) sometime at and after the 500th year of his life, and before the 600th year of his life (when the flood came). Therefore, we have a 100 year time span in which Noah had Shem, Ham and Japheth.

    Japheth is the oldest, as he is listed first in giving of the lineage (Gen 10:2-5), afterward came Ham (Gen 10:6-20) and finally Shem (Gen 10:21), and the other passages are given in reverse order. How old then was Noah when Shem was born, since that is through whom the genealogy continues in Luk 3:36?

    Genesis 11:10 These are the generations of Shem: Shem was an hundred years old, and begat Arphaxad two years after the flood:​

    This places the birth of Arphaxad, in the year 1656 + 1 year (flood; 370 ish days) + 2 (years after the flood) = AM 1659.

    This places Shem at 100 in the year AM 1659.
    This places Shem at 99 in the year AM 1658.
    This places Shem at 98 in the year AM 1657 (end of the flood).
    This places Shem at 97 in the year AM 1656 (year of the flood).
    This places Shem at birth in the year AM 1559.
    This would place Ham at birth in the year AM 1557/8 (501st - 502nd year of Noah).
    This would place Japheth at birth in the year AM 1556 (500th year of Noah; 1056 + 500).

    Break, beginning with Noah:

    0874 - 1056 - Noah (950) (Gen 5:28,29; Luk 3:36) + 500 (Gen 5:32) + 100 (Gen 7:6,11; +3, Shem; Gen 11:10, +97) + 350 (died; Gen 9:28,29)
    1056 - 1559 - Shem (600) (Gen 5:32, 7:6,11, 11:10) + 100 (Arphaxad; Gen 11:10; Luk 3:36) + 500 (died; Gen 11:11)
    1559 - 1659 - Arphaxad (438) (Gen 11:10; Luk 3:36) + 35 (Salah; Gen 11:12; Luk 3:35) + 403 (died; Gen 11:13)
    ???? - ???? - Cainan (Luk 3:35) (several possibilities, none of which are error, or scribal error, *)
    1659 - 1694 - Salah (433) (Gen 11:12; Luk 3:35) + 30 (Eber; Gen 11:14; Luk 3:35) + 403 (died; Gen 11:15)
    1694 - 1724 - Eber (464) (Gen 11:14; Luk 3:35) + 34 (Peleg; Gen 11:16; Luk 3:35) + 430 (died; Gen 11:17)
    1724 - 1758 - Peleg (239) (Gen 11:16; Luk 3:35) + 30 (Reu; Gen 11:18; Luk 3:35) + 209 (died; Gen 11:19)
    1758 - 1788 - Reu (239) (Gen 11:18; Luk 3:35) + 32 (Serug; Gen 11:20; Luk 3:35) + 207 (died; Gen 11:21)
    1788 - 1820 - Serug (230) (Gen 11:20; Luk 3:35) + 30 (Nahor; Gen 11:22; Luk 3:34) + 200 (died; Gen 11:23)
    1820 - 1850 - Nahor (148) (Gen 11:22; Luk 3:34) + 29 (Terah; Gen 11:24; Luk 3:34) + 119 (died; Gen 11:25)
    1850 - 1879 - Terah (205) (Gen 11:24; Luk 3:34) + 130 (Abram; Gen 11:32, 12:4; Acts 7:2-4) + 75 (died; Gen 11:32)

    In the text of Genesis 11:26, we read:

    Genesis 11:26 And Terah lived seventy years, and begat Abram, Nahor, and Haran.​

    This text, is like unto Genesis 11:10, in that it is not saying that Abraham was born in the 70th year of Terah, for we know this by comparing text with text in scripture. For instance:

    Genesis 11:31And Terah took Abram his son, and Lot the son of Haran his son's son, and Sarai his daughter in law, his son Abram's wife; and they went forth with them from Ur of the Chaldees, to go into the land of Canaan; and they came unto Haran, and dwelt there.

    Genesis 11:32 And the days of Terah were two hundred and five years: and Terah died in Haran.

    Genesis 12:1 Now the LORD had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto a land that I will shew thee:

    Genesis 12:4 So Abram departed, as the LORD had spoken unto him; and Lot went with him: and Abram was seventy and five years old when he departed out of Haran.​

    This is repeated in Acts 7:

    Acts 7:2 And he said, Men, brethren, and fathers, hearken; The God of glory appeared unto our father Abraham, when he was in Mesopotamia, before he dwelt in Charran,

    Acts 7:3 And said unto him, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and come into the land which I shall shew thee.

    Acts 7:4 Then came he out of the land of the Chaldaeans, and dwelt in Charran: and from thence, when his father was dead, he removed him into this land, wherein ye now dwell.​

    Combining Genesis 11:32, with Genesis 12:4, with Acts 7:4, we come to understand that Abram was 75 years old when Terah died at 205. This would place the birth of Abram at 130th year of Terah. If we use a similar approach here, as that of Shem, Ham and Japheth, then it is likely that Haran was the firstborn, and first to die young (Gen 11:28), as it mentions no wives of his, and then the second would be Nahor, followed by Abram, who both take wives after the death of their elder brother Haran (Gen 11:29) in Ur of the Chaldees.

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  3. Alofa Atu

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    Continuing with Terah & Abraham:

    1850 - 1879 - Terah (205) (Gen 11:24; Luk 3:34) + 130 (Abram; Gen 11:32, 12:4; Luk 3:34; Acts 7:2-4) + 75 (died; Gen 11:32)

    1879 - 2009 - Abram (175) (Gen 11:32, 12:4; Luk 3:34; Acts 7:2-4; leaves Haran at 75; AM 2084) + 86 (Ishmael; Gen 16:15-16; AM 2095) + 13 (circumcised at 99; Gen 17:1,24; AM 2108) + 1 year (journey + 9 months pregnancy of Sarah, Abraham is 100; Isaac; Gen 17:21, 18:10, 21:2-3,5; Luk 3:34; Acts 7:8; AM 2109) + 75 (died; Gen 25:7-8)

    2009 - 2095 - Ishmael (137) (Gen 16:15-16) + 13 (circumcised; Gen 17:25; AM 2108) + 124 (died; Gen 25:17; AM 2232); Abram was 75 in leaving Haran (Gen 12:4), and Gen 16:3 says that he dwelt 10 years in the land of promise (Canaan), making him 85, when Sarai gave Hagar to Abram (Gen 16:3), and 9 months (pregnancy) later (round 1 year), making Abram 86 (Gen 16:16) at the birth of Ishmael, and Ishmael dying at AM 2232.

    2009 - 2109 - Isaac (180) (Gen 17:21, 18:10, 21:2-3,5; Luk 3:34; Acts 7:8; Ishmael is now 14; Gen 17:25; AM 2108) + 8 days (circumcised; Gen 21:4; Acts 7:8) + 40 (Rebekah as wife; Gen 25:20; AM 2149) + 20 (birth of twins, Esau and Jacob; Isaac is 60; Gen 25:26; Acts 7:8; and Ishmael is 74; Gen 17:25; AM 2169) + 120 (died; Gen 35:28-29; AM 2289)

    2109 - 2169 - Jacob (147) (Isaac is 60; Gen 25:26; Mat 1:2; Luk 3:34; Acts 7:8) (Jacob grows up, and lives as a 'plain man' 'dwelling in tents'; Gen 25:27' and there is a famine in the land; Gen 26:1, and Isaac then dwells in Gerar, “a long time”; Gen 26:8; and lives another “year” there, Gen 26:12, and afterward moves to the “valley of Gerar”; Gen 26:17; then moves to Rehoboth and Beersheba; Gen 26:23; and Esau is “forty” (40) years old at this time (making Isaac, 60 (40+20) + 40 = 100; AM 2209 (80 years left for Isaac)) and marries Judith and Bashemath, which makes Jacob, his twin, also 40 at that same time (AM 2209)) + X (and then the scripture says, “it came to pass, that when Isaac was old, and his eyes were dim, so that he could not see”; Gen 27:1; which is like unto Israel (147) in Gen 48:10; and Eli (98), in 1 Sam 4:15, but many years had passed, and Jacob then goes to Padanaram; Syria & Laban; Gen 28:5) + 30 days (abides with Laban; Gen 29:14) + 7 (Leah; Gen 29:27; 31:41) + 1 week (Gen 29:27-28) + 7 (Rachel, though she was given that night after the 1 week with Leah; Gen 29:18-21,28,30, 31:41; Hos 12:12; and Rachel was barren for 14 years in which many children were born to Jacob ((Leah) Reuben – Gen 29:32; (Leah) Simeon – Gen 29:33; (Leah) Levi – Gen 29:34; (Leah) – Judah – Gen 29:35; (Bilhah) – Dan - Gen 30:6; (Bilhah) – Naphtali – Gen 30:8; (Zilpah) – Gad – Gen 30:11; (Zilpah) – Asher – Gen 30:13; (Leah) – Issachar – Gen 30:18; (Leah) – Zebulun – Gen 30:20; (Leah) – Dinah (daughter) – Gen 30:21) and finally Joseph; at the end of Rachel's 7 years, making it 14 years total (10 boys and 1 girl, 11 total in 14 years) when Joseph is born; Gen 30:24; Acts 7:8; AM 2260; making Jacob 91 years old) + 6 (working for flocks; Gen 30:28; (flocks producing about every 5 months; Gen 30:39, 31:41) 20 years total working for Laban; Gen 31:38,41; AM 2266) + 11 (coat of many colours; Joseph is 17 years old; Gen 37:2-3) + 11 (years Joseph as a slave) + 2 (years of Joseph in Egypt, serving Potiphar; Gen 39:1 and keeper of the prison; Gen 39:21-22, before famine; Dreams of Pharaoh; Gen 41:1; Joseph is 30 when before Pharaoh; Gen 41:46) + 7 (plenty; Gen 41:29,53) + 2 (famine (5 left); Gen 41:30, 45:6; Jacob meets Pharaoh at age 130; Gen 47:9, 50:22; Exo 1:1; Jos 24:4; 1 Sam 12:8; Psa 105:23; this means that since Isaac was 60 when Esau/Jacob was born, Gen 25:26; Acts 7:8; AM 2169, and Esau/Jacob is now 130 (AM 2299), and Isaac only lived to 180; that Esau/Jacob buried their father 10 years earlier; Gen 35:28-29; AM 2289) + 5 (remaining famine; Gen 41:30, 45:6) + 12 (died; Gen 47:28, 49:33; Acts 7:15; AM 2316)

    Death of Jacob (AM 2316; Jacob is 147) – 12 (AM 2304) – 5 (AM 2299; Jacob is 130) – 2 (AM 2297) – 7 (AM 2290) – 2 (AM 2288; Joseph is 30) – 11 (AM 2277; Joseph is 17) – 11 (AM 2266) – 6 (AM 2260; Joseph is born) = 56 years from 147 years total = 91 years of age when Joseph was born to Jacob.

    2169 - 2260 - Joseph (110) (finally Joseph; at the end of Rachel's 7 years, making it 14 years total (10 boys and 1 girl, 11 total in 14 years) when Joseph is born; Gen 30:24; Acts 7:8; AM 2260; making Jacob 91 years old) + 17 (coat of many colours; Gen 37:2-3) + 11 (years as a slave) + 2 (years in Egypt, serving Potiphar; Gen 39:1 and keeper of the prison; Gen 39:21-22, before famine; Dreams of Pharaoh; Gen 41:1; Joseph is 30 when before Pharaoh; Gen 41:46) + 7 (plenty; Gen 41:29,53) + 2 (famine (5 left); Gen 41:30, 45:6; Jacob meets Pharaoh at age 130; Gen 47:9) + 5 (remaining famine; Gen 41:30, 45:6) + 66 (died; Gen 50:22,26; Exo 1:6; AM 2370)

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    When Jacob meets Pharaoh, it is the year AM 2299, and this is the year that Jacob/Israel and his sons (the tribes of) went down into Egypt and 'sojourned' there.

    Genesis 46:1 And Israel took his journey with all that he had, and came to Beersheba, and offered sacrifices unto the God of his father Isaac.

    Genesis 46:2 And God spake unto Israel in the visions of the night, and said, Jacob, Jacob. And he said, Here am I.

    Genesis 46:3 And he said, I am God, the God of thy father: fear not to go down into Egypt; for I will there make of thee a great nation:

    Genesis 46:4 I will go down with thee into Egypt; and I will also surely bring thee up again: and Joseph shall put his hand upon thine eyes.

    Genesis 46:5 And Jacob rose up from Beersheba: and the sons of Israel carried Jacob their father, and their little ones, and their wives, in the wagons which Pharaoh had sent to carry him.

    Genesis 46:6 And they took their cattle, and their goods, which they had gotten in the land of Canaan, and came into Egypt, Jacob, and all his seed with him:

    Genesis 46:7 His sons, and his sons' sons with him, his daughters, and his sons' daughters, and all his seed brought he with him into Egypt.

    Genesis 46:26 All the souls that came with Jacob into Egypt, which came out of his loins, besides Jacob's sons' wives, all the souls were threescore and six;

    Genesis 46:27 And the sons of Joseph, which were born him in Egypt, were two souls: all the souls of the house of Jacob, which came into Egypt, were threescore and ten.

    Genesis 47:1 Then Joseph came and told Pharaoh, and said, My father and my brethren, and their flocks, and their herds, and all that they have, are come out of the land of Canaan; and, behold, they are in the land of Goshen.

    Genesis 47:2 And he took some of his brethren, even five men, and presented them unto Pharaoh.

    Genesis 47:3 And Pharaoh said unto his brethren, What is your occupation? And they said unto Pharaoh, Thy servants are shepherds, both we, and also our fathers.

    Genesis 47:4 They said moreover unto Pharaoh, For to sojourn in the land are we come; for thy servants have no pasture for their flocks; for the famine is sore in the land of Canaan: now therefore, we pray thee, let thy servants dwell in the land of Goshen.

    Genesis 47:5 And Pharaoh spake unto Joseph, saying, Thy father and thy brethren are come unto thee:

    Genesis 47:6 The land of Egypt is before thee; in the best of the land make thy father and brethren to dwell; in the land of Goshen let them dwell: and if thou knowest any men of activity among them, then make them rulers over my cattle.

    Genesis 47:7 And Joseph brought in Jacob his father, and set him before Pharaoh: and Jacob blessed Pharaoh.

    Genesis 47:8 And Pharaoh said unto Jacob, How old art thou?

    Genesis 47:9 And Jacob said unto Pharaoh, The days of the years of my pilgrimage are an hundred and thirty years: few and evil have the days of the years of my life been, and have not attained unto the days of the years of the life of my fathers in the days of their pilgrimage.

    Genesis 47:10 And Jacob blessed Pharaoh, and went out from before Pharaoh.

    Genesis 47:11 And Joseph placed his father and his brethren, and gave them a possession in the land of Egypt, in the best of the land, in the land of Rameses, as Pharaoh had commanded.

    Genesis 47:12 And Joseph nourished his father, and his brethren, and all his father's household, with bread, according to their families.

    Genesis 47:29 And Israel dwelt in the land of Egypt, in the country of Goshen; and they had possessions therein, and grew, and multiplied exceedingly.

    Genesis 50:22 And Joseph dwelt in Egypt, he, and his father's house: and Joseph lived an hundred and ten years.​

    Now let's see what other information we can glean, since the ages of persons basically ceases with Joseph:

    Exodus 12:40 Now the sojourning of the children of Israel, who dwelt in Egypt, was four hundred and thirty years.

    Exodus 12:41 And it came to pass at the end of the four hundred and thirty years, even the selfsame day it came to pass, that all the hosts of the LORD went out from the land of Egypt.​

    We have further confirmation of the 400+ year time span (400 years of being entreated evil, and the first 30 of being treated with kindness because of Joseph), as God had foretold this to Abraham:

    Genesis 15:13 And he said unto Abram, Know of a surety that thy seed shall be a stranger in a land that is not theirs, and shall serve them; and they shall afflict them four hundred years;

    Genesis 15:14 And also that nation, whom they shall serve, will I judge: and afterward shall they come out with great substance.

    Acts 7:6 And God spake on this wise, That his seed should sojourn in a strange land; and that they should bring them into bondage, and entreat them evil four hundred years.

    Acts 7:6 And the nation to whom they shall be in bondage will I judge, said God: and after that shall they come forth, and serve me in this place.

    Galatians 3:17 And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.​

    Genesis 47:4 proves that the famine in the land of Canaan was already in its second year (Genesis 41:30, 45:6; at which time Jacob was 130 years of age; Genesis 47:9; AM 2299), and Genesis 46:4 shows that it was God who commanded Jacob/Israel to go into Egypt, and that God would be with Him entering in, and leaving (with his children), for a promise of the future was given to Abraham, that the Egyptians would “afflict them” (Genesis 15:13), and “entreat them evil four hundred years” (Acts 7:6). Yet we know that Jacob/Israel and his children were not entreated evil or afflicted at the first (30 years), but received welcome into Egypt on behalf of Joseph by command of Pharaoh (Genesis 47:6,11,29, 50:22). It was only after the famine of 7 years was over (Genesis 41:30, 45:6; AM 2304), and after Jacob/Israel died (17 years later from speaking to Pharaoh, at the age of 147; Genesis 47:28, 49:33; Acts 7:15; AM 2316) and a few more years (AM 2329), that a change slowly began to take place, and all the moreso when Joseph himself died (Genesis 50:22,26; Exodus 1:6; AM 2370) and a new Pharaoh arose (Exodus 1:8-14). A slow transition had taken place, and didn't all take place in a day.

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    Therefore, if we take the date at which Jacob/Israel stood before Pharaoh (at age 130; Gen 47:9; AM 2299) and was invited into the land of Egypt, along with all his household, we can simply add the 430 years (Exodus 12:40-41; Galatians 3:17) to that date. AM 2299 + 430 = AM 2729, for the coming out of Egypt, “even the selfsame day” (Exodus 12:41).

    From the time that Israel (the peoples) left from out of Egypt (AM 2729) unto the building of Solomon's Temple is 480 more years. AM 3209:

    1 Kings 16:1 And it came to pass in the four hundred and eightieth year after the children of Israel were come out of the land of Egypt, in the fourth year of Solomon's reign over Israel, in the month Zif, which is the second month, that he began to build the house of the LORD.
    Now, going back to the Judges and their time:

    Act 13:20 And after that he gave unto them judges about the space of four hundred and fifty years, until Samuel the prophet.​

    8 years servitude to king of Mesopatamia --- Judges 3:8
    40 years judgeship of Othniel --- Judges 3:9-11
    18 years servitude to Moab --- Judges 3:14
    80 years rest under Ehud --- Judges 3:15-30
    20 years servitude to Jabin --- Judges 4:1-3
    40 years rest under Deborah --- Judges 4:4; to 5:31
    7 years bondage under Midian --- Judges 6:1
    40 years rest under Gideon --- Judges 6 :11-14;8 :28
    3 years reign of Abimelech --- Judges 9:1-22
    23 years judgeship of Tola --- Judges 10:1,2
    22 years judgeship of Jair --- Judges 10:3

    301 years in all

    301 years the previous total

    18 years period of oppression of Ammon --- Judges 10:8
    6 years judgeship of Jephthah --- Judges 12:7
    7 years judgeship of Ibzan --- Judges 12:8,9
    10 years judgeship of Elon --- Judges 12:10,11
    8 years judgeship of Abdon --- Judges 12:12-15
    40 years oppression by the Philistines --- Judges 13:1

    It was during the last 20 years of this 40 years of oppression that Samson's judgeship ran (Judges 15:20; 16:30, 31)

    40 years judgeship of Eli --- 1 Sam. 4:12-18
    20 years judgeship of Samuel the prophet, until Israel desired a king. (1 Sam. 8:5) During Samuel's judgeship the Ark remained in Kirjath-Jearim (1 Sam. 7:2)

    450 years in all for the Judges. The two times overlap.

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    The puzzle is really easy to solve. Any attempt to count the actual days is an attempt to place a modern understanding of “time” or “counting” on an ancient near East culture that used a different method.

    The number “40” was considered a generation. It was an approximation if time.

    Not every person born was part of a genealogy, only those considered important. So you find statements like “and he had other sons and daughters”. Sometimes, entire generations could left out just to focus on a key person. To say he was “begat” by someone could mean only he was a grandson or great grandson of that person.

    Concerning the reign of Kings, it was common to have duel reigns where the son and father would rule together.

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    Thank you Alofa, you did excellent chronology.

    I was sure myself that period of Judges has the right number of years, because in the middle of Judges was one judge called Jephthah.

    So, Jephthah said to the king of Ammonites that Israel already lived 300 years in the land of Gilead since the conquest of the land by Ruben, Gad, and a half tribe of Manasseh during Joshua’s time. Judges 11.26.


    Judges 11.26
    26."While Israel lived in Heshbon and its villages, and in Aroer (Heshbon and Aroer belong to Ruben) and its villages, and in all the cities that are on the banks of the Arnon, three hundred years (300), why did you not recover them within that time?"


    I am sure that Jephtah counted this time from the time of Exodus, and the rest of chronology seems falling to its place.

    If Samuel meant 480 years (1Kings 6.1) after period of Judges (450 years) the number will be quite big, 930 years, the length of Adam's life.

    Thank you guys.

    GOD bless you.
     
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    So, if you look at the text of Judges 10:8, it speaks of the timeframe that the Ammonites came to oppress because of Israel's (the peoples) sins. It then gives a summary of how long that oppression took (18 years), but the narrative reverts back to the first year of their assault. Taking that into consideration, and along with the statement made in a letter to Sihon (king of the children of Ammon; Judges 11:12 KJB) from Jephthah (Judges 11:26 KJB), it was 300 years back to when they (Israel) first took possession. The time table says 301, but that is an inclusive reckoning (simply an adding of the numbers), rather than an exclusive one (which would be 300 years, not counting the first portion of the time they moved in, like as unto a reignal year).
     
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