The REAL Jack Hyles

God can use an "ass" (KJV) too, but it doesn't mean I want to be one or emulate one!

 

Jack Hyles was self-obsessed. His preaching was unbiblical. His leadership was abusive. His doctrines were in serious error. His ministries were more hype than substance. Reports on conversions and attendance were so grossly exaggerated that they are more lie than anything else. I'm not saying this because I want to rant against a dead man. I hope that others will not follow his example.

 

AMEN Larry

 

Just so you know, I am not a Hyles man. I just watch as people judge and derail a man no longer here to defend himself. Take anyones ministry and you will find it flawed. If you find a perfect church ya better not join it.

Not trying to start an argument. Just amazed at the wolf pack mentality of this board. If this board is a true representation of baptists then where are the Hyles supporters. Lets get some two sided debate going.

 

Yeah, we couldn't get the same good fortune the world had after Herbie Armstrong croaked. Looks as if his WWCOG is becoming legit, even following many Baptist practices. Seems as if their 7th Day Adventist/Universalist heresy is over and done.

PRAISE THE LORD!

Now, if people would leave HYLES in the ground....

 

Would you like to judge the honesty of Hyles' ministry?

He claims he preached 50,000 sermons! That's 1000 sermons a year for 50 years! Do the math! That's roughly three sermons a day, every day, for fifty years!

The man was a liar. There is no way one can get around this fact.

 

Indeed it does matter, and not just because many of us have serious concerns about the ministry of the late Jack Hyles. The bigger concern is the impact he and his ministry had on FBC/HAC and fundamentalism, and what the impact is today.

A team from FBC was at my church recently and there were some things brought out that made me question there credibility. There were rhetorical questions asked like where would fundamentalism be but for Jack Hyles. Wouldn't it be wherever God wanted it to be? It just seems to me that the majority of HAC/FBC folks are giving Jack Hyles credit for what God has done.

A statement was also made that FBC has a goal of 25,000 baptisms in one year and they were well on their way to meeting that goal. Assuming the traditional Baptist practice of Sunday morning, Sunday evening and Wednesday night services, they would have to baptize an average of 160 every service to reach the goal. That's an astounding number to me.

I've never been to FBC, so maybe they have a good number of baptistries and an incredible system for making them happen quickly. If the building had 8 baptristies, and each baptism took 1 minute from the time the new believer got in the water and out, and they used all the baptristies every week, it is possible that an average of 160 people could get baptized every single week. Is it me, or does that seem like an unrealistic number? Things like that continue to call into question the credibility of FBC.

Again, what Jack Hyles was about should be questioned because he still has an impact on FBC/HAC and fundamentalism, though he's been dead for 4 years now.

 

Jack Hyles son-in-law is carrying on Jack's legacy. It seems that he has learned some of Jack's worst traits.

Where would fundamentalism be without Hyles? Much better off. FBC no longer remotely resembles historic fundamentalism.

 

Posted by Charles Meadows: Would you also defend Billy Graham?

I can't honestly say that I would. I am not disputing anyones claims against Jack Hyles. The man's ministry has already been judged of God. Jack Hyles is where he will spend eternity.

It is one thing to discuss a ministries shortcommings. It is another to attack a dead man like a bunch of scavenging jackals.

If you think Jack Hyles was corrupt, so be it. The laborers are few. Mabey some of you experts should go to Hammond and show them how it should be done in a Godly biblical manner.

 

Soulman,

You say, don't make it personal, then you attack everyone who evaluates Hyles' ministry. Now which is it that you would have us to do? If we follow your example, we ought to continue doing what we are doing!

 

And the legacy lives on in his SIL...shameful.

 

Dr. Bob wins the Cliff Notes Award!

All one would ever need to know about the lifestyle and beliefs of Dr. Where Would Fundamentalism Be Without Me Hyles.

 

Doc,

Here is a quote from a message that he preached. I actually liked the message up until the point that he said this, "Sometimes I think that God feels how I felt..." He was talking about being disappointed, but I was struck by how low his view of God was. We should not ever compare ourselves to God, and when we do, we think way too much of ourselves. Maybe I am overreacting to that statement, but it bothered me. And that tape was from the year 1981. Perhaps a lot that followed had to do with that view of God that was accidentally (I believe) expressed.

 

You know Dan, I have noticed that, among the HAC grads that I know, many have that same low view of God. I think it's an over-emphasis on Christ's humanity.

I don't know about you, but I need to know that Christ is so far above me and my ways. If not, I won't fear Him, follow Him, or faith Him.

 

Hey, Dan...Didn't see you there!

Chris I agree with you...if God feels like we feel, I don't think I would be able to serve Him. It would be awfully hard. I know he was tempted in all points like we are in Christ Jesus in the form of a man, but other than that...no way.

HAC grads are notorious for trying to bring God down to the lowest human denominator.