The REAL Libertarian Stance on Global warming

Me, too, brother. Me, too.

 

Originally Posted by The Galatian
Then you "believe in" evolution. It is adaption. However, you should not "believe in" any science, including evolution. You should accept or reject it on evidence.

Evidence, as you might know, is why most of the World's Christians and an overwhelming majority of Christians who are scientists, accept evolution.

Nothing in science is ever "proven." Science is inductive, depending on evidence.

It's understandable that you don't like what the evidence says, but it's overwhelming. Would you like to understand why even informed YEers admit that the evidence says the world is very old?

Sure is. We can even test and meaure it in populations, as it responds to selective pressure. Would you like to learn about that?

The first documented case was formally observed in the early 1900s. By now, there are quite a few speciations. Even most creationists now admit speciation. John Woodmorappe, whose "Noah's Ark; a Feasibility Study" was endorsed by the Institute for Creation Research, admits that new species, genera, and families evolve.

Not in the Christian Bible. You added that to make it more acceptable to you. Not a word there about adaptation or evolution. Nothing about solid state electronics, either. If this puzzles you, you might what to consider what the Bible is for.

 

..."It's the money!" says Dr. Baliunas. "Twenty-five billion dollars in government funding has been spent since 1990 to research global warming. If scientists and researchers were coming out releasing reports that global warming has little to do with man, and most to do with just how the planet works, there wouldn't be as much money to study it."

Regardless of any other political implications in these articles, this guy has nailed it. It's all about money.

The Kyoto solution is also all about money and redistribution of wealth amongst nations as well.

 

Barbarian observes:
Evidence, as you might know, is why most of the World's Christians and an overwhelming majority of Christians who are scientists, accept evolution.

Barbarian observes:
Nothing in science is ever "proven." Science is inductive, depending on evidence.

Barbarian observes:
It's understandable that you don't like what the evidence says, but it's overwhelming. Would you like to understand why even informed YEers admit that the evidence says the world is very old?

Barbarian observes:
Sure is. We can even test and meaure it in populations, as it responds to selective pressure. Would you like to learn about that?

Barbarian observes:
The first documented case was formally observed in the early 1900s. By now, there are quite a few speciations. Even most creationists now admit speciation. John Woodmorappe, whose "Noah's Ark; a Feasibility Study" was endorsed by the Institute for Creation Research, admits that new species, genera, and families evolve.

Barbarian observes:
Not in the Christian Bible. You added that to make it more acceptable to you. Not a word there about adaptation or evolution. Nothing about solid state electronics, either. If this puzzles you, you might what to consider what the Bible is for.

Sure. Slightly more than half of all Christians are Roman Catholics, who accept that evolution is consistent with Scripture. Second largest body of Christians are Eastern Orthodox, who do also. Then there's Anglicans. And most Lutherans outside of the US.

Be honest with yourself, Curtis. I'm disagreeing with you about what it says. Why lie about what I said?

As you are.

I didn't call you ignorant. You're insulting yourself and blaming me.

(re:Barbarian's observation that the Bible says nothing about evolution or solid state physics)
As far as solid state elecronics...

(Curtis holds forth on what he thinks solid state physics is about)
Daniel 12:4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.

I think we've located your problem...:laugh:

 

I pointed out the denominations accepting evolution. They comprise the vast majority of Christians.

If you can't see the humor in someone trying to convince me that the Bible speaks of solid-state electronics, you have no sense of humor.

I have the doctrinal statements of these churches. Care to see them?

You've got it backwards. Evidence is the right way to go.

Sorry, that's wrong. Even creationists now admit that speciation is a fact.

No it's not. You just made it up to change the Bible to meet your expectations. It says nothing at all about that, or about species reproducing according to kind.

I second the one who suggested to you that learning about it might help you learn why most Christians accept it.

Too late. If you didn't want to discuss it, you should never have brought the subject up.

Never said so. But maybe your conscience is telling you something.

 

Ma an Pa would be ashamed of todays Libertarian junkyard polluters

Ma an Pa would be ashamed of todays Libertarian junkyard polluters






Pollute and let live is their cry!

 

Bologna, you've simply chosen mans viewpoint instead of Gods. That's what "scientific wannabe's" do.

 

[quiote]Bologna, you've simply chosen mans viewpoint instead of Gods.[/quote]

No, he's chosen the evidence over your revision of God's word. Nothing in scripture denies evolution, which is why most Christians accept that it's consistent with our faith.

Let Him be God and you won't have any objections to the way He created things.