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The Recovery Version

Discussion in '2005 Archive' started by David J, Jan 12, 2005.

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  1. David J

    David J New Member

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    http://www.biblesforamerica.com/

    I figured since it was free I would order one just to see.

    Does anyone here have anything to say about this version? What do you think?

    *PLEASE NO KJVO JUNK! I want real answers*

    Thanks
     
    #1 David J, Jan 12, 2005
  2. west

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    I have one .I read that its not a good version .Can;t remember the reason .
    I am sure someones knows why . Sorry .
     
    #2 west, Jan 12, 2005
  3. Ed Edwards

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    Living Stream Ministry is a non-profit corporation that is primarily dedicated to the publication of the ministry of Watchman Nee and Witness Lee.

    Living Stream Ministry is giving away
    copies of the Bible Versions.
    For $35 you can get a slightly used
    copy of Recovery Version.

    I recommend getting a free King James Version
    from the Mormons. The KJV is of known
    value. [​IMG]
     
    #3 Ed Edwards, Jan 12, 2005
  4. rsr

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    I looked at several passages and, although it's based on the USB text, it reads almost archaically in some places for a modern version. And some of the renderings seem, well, to be an odd form of English. I don't know what the significance is. It does consistently render "truth" as "reality" (Even the Spirit of reality, whom the world cannot receive, because it does not behold Him or know Him; but you know Him, because He abides with you and shall be in you.)

    I also don't know what "mistakes" the translation is supposed to remedy:

    "The use of the word "recovery" does not refer to a person's recovery from alcoholism or other substance abuse. Rather, it refers to the regaining of matters of biblical truth, Christian experience, and church practice that have been lost over time because of misunderstanding, mistranslation, or misinterpretation under the influences of history, tradition, and even religion."

    The site includes sample text from Genesis, which probably means a full Bible is in the offing.

    I haven't read enough to gain an opinion, although the first chapter of Genesis explicitly confirms the doctrine of re-creation.

    "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. But the earth became waste and emptiness, and darkness was on the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was brooding upon the surface of the waters."

    The notes appear to be the real meat of the matter and offer some interesting insights:

    "God created the earth in a good order (Job
    38:4-7; Isa. 45:18). But here and became later
    in this verse indicate that something happened
    to cause God’s creation to become 'waste and
    emptiness.' This cataclysmic event was God’s
    judgment on the preadamic universe following
    Satan’s rebellion. This judgment was executed on
    Satan, on the angels and the preadamic creatures
    living on the earth who joined Satan in his rebellion, and on the heavens and the earth themselves."

    "At the end of the second day there is no
    record that God said that the expanse (the air)
    and the waters were good (cf. vv. 4, 10, 12, 18, 21, 25). This is because in the air there are fallen angels (Eph. 2:2; 6:12), and the water is the dwelling place of the demons (Matt. 12:43 and note)."
     
    #4 rsr, Jan 12, 2005
  5. stevec

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    I also ordered one (NT only), after reading through it I keep it on the shelf with others like The Living Bible, The New World Translation and the Joseph Smith Translation as examples of Bibles not to read.

    The translation itself isn't that bad, the problem stems from the footnotes. There are places where the actual Biblical text is 1/4 of the page and the footnotes take up the other 3/4 of the page. I don't recall anywhere that the footnotes aren't at least 1/4 of the page. Secondly, the footnotes are very biased toward their particular interpretation of Scripture. IIRC they are post-trib, five point Calvinists (among other things) and it feels like they are tryinf to force their beliefs on the reader.
     
    #5 stevec, Jan 13, 2005
  6. Ziggy

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    The tie with Witness Lee (as opposed to his mentor Watchman Nee) is disturbing, because this then moves into the so-called "The Local Church" movement, which basically becomes heterodox as opposed to normative orthodox Christianity (some might call it a "cult", but the group sued Thomas Nelson on that point and won, so "heterodox" might be the better expression). :rolleyes:

    In any case, I suspect the translation notes (in particular) are not so much trying to promote 5-pt Calvinism as much as Lee's doctrine that in any given city -- regardless of population -- there can be only *one* local church (their group, of course), and that all other groups or entities claiming to be a "church" are actually apostate and Satanic. (Needless to say, this does not exactly help Baptiat church growth plans...).

    So I definitely will request a free copy of their translation, just as I do with the JWs or Mormons with their books....Costs them money. [​IMG]
     
    #6 Ziggy, Jan 13, 2005
  7. stevec

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    I wasn't aware of this, thanks.

    The "one local church" thing sounds kinda like the ICoC.
     
    #7 stevec, Jan 13, 2005
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    Wow. i just did a Google search on these two, that's disturbing! It's far to much to post here but for anyone with a morbid curiosity for heresy (like me) you might want to look at it.

    Armed with this new information I now double my warning that this is a Bible not to read.
     
    #8 stevec, Jan 13, 2005
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    I looked at the website it's on but I don't understand why it's called a Recovery Bible. Sorry if I missed something.
     
    #9 chipsgirl, Jan 13, 2005
  10. stevec

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    Because they claim they are "recovering" the original meaning of Scripture.
     
    #10 stevec, Jan 13, 2005
  11. David J

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    Interesting stuff. Thanks all!
     
    #11 David J, Jan 13, 2005
  12. chipsgirl

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    I'll just stick to my other Bibles.
     
    #12 chipsgirl, Jan 13, 2005
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