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The "Sinner's Prayer"

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by bmerr, Jul 7, 2005.

  1. bmerr

    bmerr New Member

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    To All,

    bmerr here. Now THAT'S hard-core Calvinism, folks! P-nut, whether he knows it or not, has placed the responsibility for every hell-bound soul on God.

    Actually, to require the direct operation of the Holy Spirit on the heart of the sinner (or saint) would require that the Scriptures are not sufficient to equip us for every good work (2 Tim 3:16, 17).

    Think about it. If God has to send the Holy Spirit to enable a man to have faith by which to be saved, then why does he not send the Spirit to every man, since God is no respecter of persons (Acts 10:34), and is not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance (2 Pet 3:9)? Why would God arbitrarily choose one and not another?

    This "direct operation" notion goes hand-in-hand with the idea that one must be saved in order to understand the Bible. If I can't understand the Bible unless I'm saved, but I can't be saved unless I understand and believe the Bible, how can I be saved? "Well, you just need to be 'zapped with the Holy Spirit'!" Thanks, P-nut.

    The Bible does not teach a direct operation of the Spirit, not in conversion, nor in the direction of the saint.

    In apostolic times, the Spirit spoke through inspired men (Peter's sermon in Acts 2, for example), or spoke to inspired men (Acts 8:29, 10:19, 20). He never just gave people a "feeling", or "impulse", as is often claimed by religious folk today.

    Since the close of inspiriation, the Spirit works through the Bible, the word of God, to convict men of sin, to instruct men how to be saved, and to direct the Christian in how to live and work in the Kingdom of Christ.

    2 Tim 3:16, 17 " All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works."

    God has given us a Bible that anyone with an honest and good heart (Luke 8:15) can understand and obey in order to be saved.

    In Christ,

    bmerr
     
  2. bmerr

    bmerr New Member

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    bmerr here. None of this has yet given any Biblical support for the teaching of the "sinner's prayer", or even an indication of its' origin.

    I think it's safe to say that the "sinner's prayer" did not originate in the mind of God. Therefore, it began with men. It falls among the traditions of men condemned by Jesus in Matt 15. Those teaching it likewise fall into condemnation.

    In Christ,

    bmerr
     
  3. D28guy

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    bmerr.

    Nobody is saying the reciting a particular "prayer" will get you a ticket to heaven. Someone can be sitting in a service as the gospel is proclaimed, or listening to christian radio, or reading christian material, and pass from death into life at an instant unknown to anyone else but the person and God.

    (The evidence of the new birth will become evident in due time of course)

    Prayer is communication with God, and the "sinners prayer" means nothing if it is not a reflection of the attitude of our heart. We are justified before God through faith alone in Jesus Christ. Total dependance on Him. Not saying *magic* words in prayer.

    Its very common...whether verbally or in a tract...for it to be shared that simply reciting these words means nothing. The words of the prayer must be a reflection of the sinners heart.

    Regarding praying to God in this way, (the "sinners prayer") the scriptures that justify it have been posted on this thread already so I wont post any.

    You have read them.

    Needless to say, the sinners prayer is 100% biblical IF the words are an accurate reflection of the persons heart.

    God bless,

    Mike
     
  4. bmerr

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    D28guy,

    If it were 100% biblical, wouldn't there be at least one place in the Bible that tells us to "pray a prayer like this..."?

    Just saying that one is saved by "faith alone" doesn't make it so. That is the position in question. To argue from the position under debate doesn't make sense.

    You've got to provide Scripture that says we are saved "by faith only" in order to have a case.

    Finding one that says we're saved "by faith" is not the same thing. One could use the same reasoning with 1 Pet 3:21 and say that "baptism alone" saves us. We both know that would be wrong.

    In Christ,

    bmerr
     
  5. D28guy

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    Bmerr,

    Me...

    You...

    Nope. Completly unnecesarry. Again, the prayer is only a reflection of a heart attitude. The neccesity of a heart attitude of turning from self sufficiency to an attitude of embracing and recieving Jesus Christ through faith alone is thundered from the scriptures.

    Probably millions have come to Christ without saying a "sinners prayer", while miilions probably have used that method.

    All of them...through faith alone...were born of the Spirit and sealed into the body of Christ...if they were sincere.

    Of course not. Its so because the scriptures thunder that truth home over and over and over and over again.

    That makes it so.

    "For it is by grace that you are saved, through faith. And that not of yourself. It is the gift of God. Not of works, lest anyone should boast"

    (of course that is one among multitudes)

    Specifically identified as being needed to be saved/justified:

    1) Grace

    2) Faith

    3) Recieved as a Gift from God

    Specifically identified as having no part of being saved/justified:

    1) Anything of ourself.

    2) Works

    We are justified before God through faith alone.

    God bless,

    Mike
     
  6. D28guy

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    Bmeer, let me put it another way.

    Here is the verse again...

    Here are the items...the bolded parts...that are either required to be justified or have no part of being justified.

    Grace

    Faith

    Yourself

    Gift

    Works


    Now...you go ahead and eliminate the ones that are preceded by the word "NOT" in the passage of scripture, meaning they have no part of our being justified, then tell me...

    Which ones are left?

    Mike
     
  7. bmerr

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    D28gut,

    bmerr here. So how can one understand this verse in the context of the NT when placed along such scriptuers as Mark 16:16, Acts 2:38, Rom 10:9, 10, Luke 13:3, 5, John 3:5, Acts 22:16, etc.

    In order for your interpretation of Eph 2:8, 9, many other plain Bible passages cannot mean what God has clearly written.

    I think it might be helpful to remember that when Paul speaks of "works", he is most often speaking of the works of the Mosaic Law. Remember the trouble with the Judaizers.

    As I've said in the past, I used to read Eph 2:8, 9 just like you do. Now if I understand "works" to be the works of the Law, then Eph 2:8, 9 harmonizes just fine with Mark 16:16, Acts 2:38, and the others.

    With that understanding, Eph 2:8, 9 states that we are saved by grace, through faith, not by some system we make up ourselves, it is the gift of God, not by keeping the OT Law, lest any man should boast.

    Time to go.

    In Christ,

    bmerr
     
  8. D28guy

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    bmerr,

    The way to understand is to let the scriptures interpet themselves. This scripture...and the multitudes of ones like it...fit together like a hand in a glove with those passages you mentioned. Your interpretation of the scriptures mangles and twists and butchers the scriptures.

    Cornelious and his family...as I have shown you...were born of the Spirit during the hearing of the gospel. It was during that time they entered into "faith only" saving relationship with Christ. We know that because they spoke in tongues.

    After that, after hearing the gospel and entering into a faith relationship with Jesus Christ, after that they were water baptised.

    God bless,

    Mike
     
  9. TexasSky

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    I notice that you rejected Romans 10:8-11 based on the translation used.

    May I offer it in other translations?

    KJV Romans 10:
    8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart, that is the word of faith which we preach.
    9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
    10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
    11 For the scripture saith, whosoever believed on him shall not be ashamed.

    NIV
    8 But what does it say? "The word is near you; it is in your mouth and in your heartt," that is the word of faith we are proclaiming:
    9 That if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved
    10 For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved.
    11 As teh Scripture says, "Anyone who trusts in him will never be put to shame."

    Acts 16: 30-32
    KJV
    And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?
    And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.

    NIV
    He then brought them out and asked, "Sirs, what must I do to be saved?"
    They replied, "Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved-you and your household."


    If the water were a condition of salvation - the scripture would not have been ambiguous about it. It would have mentioned Baptism as a condition of salvation in these passages. It does not.

    In fact, in the jailer's account, it seems almost to be an "after thought." The jailer asks how to be saved, they tell Him about Christ, then he offers to "clean their stripes," and while he is cleaning them up he is Baptized.

    You do not see Paul and Silas going, "You can't be saved unless you let us out so we can Baptize you."
     
  10. bmerr

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    TexasSky,

    bmerr here. If I remember correctly, my objection to the version used was that it seemed to force Rom 10:10 to present justification and salvation as things that happen separately. Perhaps it is my own misunderstanding, but I don't see how one could be saved, but not justified, or justified without being saved. The NIV you offered does the same thing.

    Regarding the Phillipian jailer (PJ, for short), how much of the gospel message had he heard at the point when he asked Paul and Silas what he must do to be saved?

    Had he even heard the name of Jesus Christ at this point?

    If we go back and investigate the text (Acts 16:17-34), we find the possessed woman proclaiming that "These men are the servants of the most high God, which shew unto us the way of salvation" (16:17). We also read that she did this for many days (16:18).

    Paul commands the spirit to come out of her, and when her masters saw that their hope of gain was gone, they take hold of Paul and Silas and drag them before the magistrates, where they laid false charges against them, and got the multitude all riled up against Paul and Silas (16:19-23).

    The command goes out to beat Paul and Silas, and after this was dutifully carried out, Paul and Silas are given to the tender mercies of PJ (16:23). It is at this point that we first are introduced to PJ. Look at how diligent he is in carrying out his orders...

    "Who, having received such a charge, thrust them into the inner prison, and made their feet fast in the stocks" (16:24).

    Having done this, PJ likely went on about his usual business, and at closing time, went home to his family and retired for the evening.

    Unbeknownst to him though, Paul and Silas were praying and singing praises unto God around midnight (16:25), and the prisoners (not PJ) heard him.

    Suddenly, BIG EARTHQUAKE!!!!! The doors of the prison are opened, and everyone's bands are loosed (16:26).

    Here's how we know that PJ hadn't heard Paul and Silas singing and praying. "And the keeper of the prison (that's PJ) awaking out of his sleep and seeing the prison doors open, he drew out his sword, and would have killed himself, supposing that the prisoners had been fled." (16:27)

    Fortunately, Paul gets his attention in time, and tells PJ that there's no need for his intended course of action (16:28).

    PJ calls for a light, springs in trembling, and falss down before Paul and Silas. He brings them out, and asks them, "Sirs, what must I do to be saved?" (Acts 16:29-30)

    Before we go on, consider the following:

    - The possessed woman had been announcing that Paul and Silas were shewing the people the way of salvation.

    - PJ had been asleep during Paul and Silas' praying and singing.

    - If PJ had heard the gospel of the death, burial, and resurrection of Christ before now, he would not have to ask "What must I do to be saved?", he would have known.

    Now what happens next in the text?

    "And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house" (Acts 16:31).

    Again, allow me to underscore the fact, that from the Biblical record, PJ is hearing the name of Jesus Christ for the first time here. He does not yet know of the Atonement of the cross of Christ, nor yet has he heard of the resurrection.

    With this in mind, what was he to believe?

    I'm sorry to cut this short, but I've got to run. I'll finish this up in a while.

    In Christ,

    bmerr
     
  11. bmerr

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    TexasSky,

    bmerr here. So where were we? Okay, I remember.

    At this point, PJ had not yet heard the word of God, which is necessary for one to have faith (Rom 10:17). Since PJ could not yet have faith, he could not even be saved by "faith alone", just by being told to believe in Jesus. PJ didn't know who Jesus was.

    Paul and Silas gave a blanket statement, which will be repeated at the end of PJ's conversion account.

    So we keep reading, and find that in 16:32, the very next verse (which is so often overlooked), Paul and Silas "...spake unto him the word of the Lord, and to all that were in his house."

    Now PJ can have faith, but there's more to his conversion than just faith...

    And he took them the same hour of the night, and washed their stripes; Stop for a minute. What is this change in PJ's behavior? He's gone from making their feet fast in the stocks (16:24) to washing their stripes. Obviously, this is repentance. So now we have faith and repentance.

    Let's continue.

    "...and was baptized, he and all his, straightway."

    Now why do you suppose he was baptized right then in the middle of the night? If the popular position, which advocates that baptism is not necessary for salvation, but is merely a "public declaration of one's faith", wouldn't it have been better to wait until the daylight hours, when more people could have seen it? Surely that would be a more effective witness for Christ!

    On the other hand, if baptism is necessary for salvation and the washing away of sins, which is what the Bible tells us (1 Pet 3:21; Acts 2:38; 22:16), then the urgency of being baptized in the middle of the night is completely understandable, and would be a cause for rejoicing.

    So what happened next?

    "And when he had brought them into his house, he set meat before them, and rejoiced, believing in God with all his house."

    Did you see that? PJ did rejoice after he was baptized. And the whole series of events is summed up in the phrase, "believing in God", which is essentially what Paul and Silas had told him to do in the first place (Acts 16:30).

    In closing, you are correct in that there is no specific command for PJ to be baptized in this passage. However, the fact that he was baptized implies that the command was given. Why would he submit to baptism if he was not commanded to do so?

    In Christ,

    bmerr
     
  12. Claudia_T

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    The Lord's Prayer
    "After this manner therefore pray ye." Matthew 6:9.


    The Lord's Prayer was twice given by our Saviour, first to the multitude in the Sermon on the Mount, and again, some months later, to the disciples alone. The disciples had been for a short time absent from their Lord, when on their return they found Him absorbed in communion with God. Seeming unconscious of their presence, He continued praying aloud. The Saviour's face was irradiated with a celestial brightness. He seemed to be in the very presence of the Unseen, and there was a living power in His words as of one who spoke with God.

    The hearts of the listening disciples were deeply moved. They had marked how often He spent long hours in solitude in communion with His Father. His days were passed in ministry to the crowds that pressed upon Him, and in unveiling the treacherous sophistry of the rabbis, and this incessant labor often left Him so utterly wearied that His mother and brothers, and even His disciples, had feared that His life would be sacrificed. But as He returned from the hours of prayer that closed the toilsome day, they marked the look of peace upon His face, the sense of refreshment that seemed to pervade His presence. It was from hours spent with God that He came forth, morning by morning, to bring the light of heaven to men. The disciples had come to connect His hours of prayer with the power of His words and works. Now, as they listened to His supplication, their hearts were awed and humbled. As He ceased praying, it was with a conviction of their own deep need that they exclaimed, "Lord, teach us to pray." Luke 11:1.
    Jesus gives them no new form of prayer. That which He has before taught them He repeats, as if He would say, You need to understand what I have already given. It has a depth of meaning you have not yet fathomed.

    The Saviour does not, however, restrict us to the use of these exact words. As one with humanity, He presents His own ideal of prayer, words so simple that they may be adopted by the little child, yet so comprehensive that their significance can never be fully grasped by the greatest minds. We are taught to come to God with our tribute of thanksgiving, to make known our wants, to confess our sins, and to claim His mercy in accordance with His promise.

    "When ye pray, say Our Father." Luke 11:2.

    Jesus teaches us to call His Father our Father. He is not ashamed to call us brethren. Hebrews 2:11. So ready, so eager, is the Saviour's heart to welcome us as members of the family of God, that in the very first words we are to use in approaching God He places the assurance of our divine relationship, "Our Father."


    Here is the announcement of that wonderful truth, so full of encouragement and comfort, that God loves us as He loves His Son. This is what Jesus said in His last prayer for His disciples, Thou "hast loved them, as Thou hast loved Me." John 17:23.

    The world that Satan has claimed and has ruled over with cruel tyranny, the Son of God has, by one vast achievement, encircled in His love and connected again with the throne of Jehovah. Cherubim and seraphim, and the unnumbered hosts of all the unfallen worlds, sang anthems of praise to God and the Lamb when this triumph was assured. They rejoiced that the way of salvation had been opened to the fallen race and that the earth would be redeemed from the curse of sin. How much more should those rejoice who are the objects of such amazing love!

    How can we ever be in doubt and uncertainty, and feel that we are orphans? It was in behalf of those who had transgressed the law that Jesus took upon Him human nature; He became like unto us, that we might have everlasting peace and assurance. We have an Advocate in the heavens, and whoever accepts Him as a personal Saviour is not left an orphan to bear the burden of his own sins.

    "Beloved, now are we the sons of God." "And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with Him, that we may be also glorified together." "It doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when He shall appear, we shall be like Him; for we shall see Him as He is." 1 John 3:2; Romans 8:17.

    The very first step in approaching God is to know and believe the love that He has to us (1 John 4:16); for it is through the drawing of His love that we are led to come to Him.
    The perception of God's love works the renunciation of selfishness. In calling God our Father, we recognize all His children as our brethren. We are all a part of the great web of humanity, all members of one family. In our petitions we are to include our neighbors as well as ourselves. No one prays aright who seeks a blessing for himself alone.

    The infinite God, said Jesus, makes it your privilege to approach Him by the name of Father. Understand all that this implies. No earthly parent ever pleaded so earnestly with an erring child as He who made you pleads with the transgressor. No human, loving interest ever followed the impenitent with such tender invitations. God dwells in every abode; He hears every word that is spoken, listens to every prayer that is offered, tastes the sorrows and disappointments of every soul, regards the treatment that is given to father, mother, sister, friend, and neighbor. He cares for our necessities, and His love and mercy and grace are continually flowing to satisfy our need.

    But if you call God your Father you acknowledge yourselves His children, to be guided by His wisdom and to be obedient in all things, knowing that His love is changeless. You will accept His plan for your life. As children of God, you will hold His honor, His character, His family, His work, as the objects of your highest interest. It will be your joy to recognize and honor your relation to your Father and to every member of His family. You will rejoice to do any act, however humble, that will tend to His glory or to the well-being of your kindred.

    "Which art in heaven." He to whom Christ bids us look as "our Father" "is in the heavens: He hath done whatsoever He hath pleased." In His care we may safely rest, saying, "What time I am afraid, I will trust in Thee." Psalms 115:3; 56:3.

    "Hallowed be Thy name." Matthew 6:9.

    To hallow the name of the Lord requires that the words in which we speak of the Supreme Being be uttered with reverence. "Holy and reverend is His name." Psalm 111:9. We are never in any manner to treat lightly the titles or appellations of the Deity. In prayer we enter the audience chamber of the Most High; and we should come before Him with holy awe. The angels veil their faces in His presence. The cherubim and the bright and holy seraphim approach His throne with solemn reverence. How much more should we, finite, sinful beings, come in a reverent manner before the Lord, our Maker!

    But to hallow the name of the Lord means much more than this. We may, like the Jews in Christ's day, manifest the greatest outward reverence for God, and yet profane His name continually. "The name of the Lord" is "merciful and gracious, long-suffering, and abundant in goodness and truth, . . . forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin." Exodus 34:5-7. Of the church of Christ it is written, "This is the name wherewith she shall be called, The Lord our Righteousness."


    Jeremiah 33:16. This name is put upon every follower of Christ. It is the heritage of the child of God. The family are called after the Father. The prophet Jeremiah, in the time of Israel's sore distress and tribulation, prayed, "We are called by Thy name; leave us not." Jeremiah 14:9.

    This name is hallowed by the angels of heaven, by the inhabitants of unfallen worlds. When you pray, "Hallowed be Thy name," you ask that it may be hallowed in this world, hallowed in you. God has acknowledged you before men and angels as His child; pray that you may do no dishonor to the "worthy name by which ye are called." James 2:7. God sends you into the world as His representative. In every act of life you are to make manifest the name of God. This petition calls upon you to possess His character. You cannot hallow His name, you cannot represent Him to the world, unless in life and character you represent the very life and character of God. This you can do only through the acceptance of the grace and righteousness of Christ.

    "Thy kingdom come." Matthew 6:10.

    God is our Father, who loves and cares for us as His children; He is also the great King of the universe. The interests of His kingdom are our interests, and we are to work for its upbuilding.

    The disciples of Christ were looking for the immediate coming of the kingdom of His glory, but in giving them this prayer Jesus taught that the kingdom was not then to be established. They were to pray for its coming as an event yet future. But this petition was also an assurance to them. While they were not to behold the coming of the kingdom in their day, the fact that Jesus bade them pray for it is evidence that in God's own time it will surely come.
    The kingdom of God's grace is now being established, as day by day hearts that have been full of sin and rebellion yield to the sovereignty of His love. But the full establishment of the kingdom of His glory will not take place until the second coming of Christ to this world. "The kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven," is to be given to "the people of the saints of the Most High." Daniel 7:27. They shall inherit the kingdom prepared for them "from the foundation of the world." Matthew 25:34. And Christ will take to Himself His great power and will reign.

    The heavenly gates are again to be lifted up, and with ten thousand times ten thousand and thousands of thousands of holy ones, our Saviour will come forth as King of kings and Lord of lords. Jehovah Immanuel "shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one Lord, and His name one." "The tabernacle of God" shall be with men, "and He will dwell with them, and they shall be His people, and God Himself shall be with them, and be their God." Zechariah 14:9; Revelation 21:3.

    But before that coming, Jesus said, "This gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations." Matthew 24:14. His kingdom will not come until the good tidings of His grace have been carried to all the earth. Hence, as we give ourselves to God, and win other souls to Him, we hasten the coming of His kingdom. Only those who devote themselves to His service, saying, "Here am I; send me" (Isaiah 6:8), to open blind eyes, to turn men "from darkness to light and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins and inheritance among them which are sanctified" (Acts 26:18)--they alone pray in sincerity, "Thy kingdom come."
    "Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven." Matthew 6:10.

    The will of God is expressed in the precepts of His holy law, and the principles of this law are the principles of heaven. The angels of heaven attain unto no higher knowledge than to know the will of God, and to do His will is the highest service that can engage their powers.

    But in heaven, service is not rendered in the spirit of legality. When Satan rebelled against the law of Jehovah, the thought that there was a law came to the angels almost as an awakening to something unthought of. In their ministry the angels are not as servants, but as sons. There is perfect unity between them and their Creator. Obedience is to them no drudgery. Love for God makes their service a joy. So in every soul wherein Christ, the hope of glory, dwells, His words are re-echoed, "I delight to do Thy will, O My God: yea, Thy law is within My heart." Psalm 40:8.


    The petition, "Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven," is a prayer that the reign of evil on this earth may be ended, that sin may be forever destroyed, and the kingdom of righteousness be established. Then in earth as in heaven will be fulfilled "all the good pleasure of His goodness." 2 Thessalonians 1:11.

    "Give us this day our daily bread." Matthew 6:11.

    The first half of the prayer Jesus has taught us is in regard to the name and kingdom and will of God--that His name may be honored, His kingdom established, His will performed. When you have thus made God's service your first interest, you may ask with confidence that your own needs may be supplied. If you have renounced self and given yourself to Christ you are a member of the family of God, and everything in the Father's house is for you. All the treasures of God are opened to you, both the world that now is and that which is to come. The ministry of angels, the gift of His Spirit, the labors of His servants--all are for you. The world, with everything in it, is yours so far as it can do you good. Even the enmity of the wicked will prove a blessing by disciplining you for heaven. If "ye are Christ's," "all things are yours." 1 Corinthians 3:23, 21.

    But you are as a child who is not yet placed in control of his inheritance. God does not entrust to you your precious possession, lest Satan by his wily arts should beguile you, as he did the first pair in Eden. Christ holds it for you, safe beyond the spoiler's reach. Like the child, you shall receive day by day what is required for the day's need. Every day you are to pray, "Give us this day our daily bread." Be not dismayed if you have not sufficient for tomorrow. You have the assurance of His promise, "So shalt thou dwell in the land, and verily thou shalt be fed." David says, "I have been young, and now am old; yet have I not seen the righteous forsaken, nor his seed begging bread." Psalm 37:3, 25. That God who sent the ravens to feed Elijah by the brook Cherith will not pass by one of His faithful, self-sacrificing children. Of him that walketh righteously it is written: "Bread shall be given him; his waters shall be sure." "They shall not be ashamed in the evil time: and in the days of famine they shall be satisfied." "He that spared not His own Son, but delivered Him up for us all, how shall He not with Him also freely give us all things?" Isaiah 33:16; Psalm 37:19; Romans 8:32. He who lightened the cares and anxieties of His widowed mother and helped her to provide for the household at Nazareth, sympathizes with every mother in her struggle to provide her children food. He who had compassion on the multitude because they "fainted, and were scattered abroad" (Matthew 9:36), still has compassion on the suffering poor. His hand is stretched out toward them in blessing; and in the very prayer which He gave His disciples, He teaches us to remember the poor.

    When we pray, "Give us this day our daily bread," we ask for others as well as ourselves. And we acknowledge that what God gives us is not for ourselves alone. God gives to us in trust, that we may feed the hungry. Of His goodness He has prepared for the poor. Psalm 68:10. And He says, "When thou makest a dinner or a supper, call not thy friends, nor thy brethren, neither thy kinsmen, nor thy rich neighbors. . . . But when thou makest a feast, call the poor, the maimed, the lame, the blind: and thou shalt be blessed; for they cannot recompense thee: for thou shalt be recompensed at the resurrection of the just." Luke 14:12-14.

    "God is able to make all grace abound toward you; that ye, always having all sufficiency in all things, may abound to every good work." "He which soweth sparingly shall reap also sparingly; and he which soweth bountifully shall reap also bountifully." 2 Corinthians 9:8, 6.

    The prayer for daily bread includes not only food to sustain the body, but that spiritual bread which will nourish the soul unto life everlasting. Jesus bids us, "Labor not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life." John 6:27. He says, "I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live forever." Verse 51. Our Saviour is the bread of life, and it is by beholding His love, by receiving it into the soul, that we feed upon the bread which came down from heaven.

    We receive Christ through His word, and the Holy Spirit is given to open the word of God to our understanding, and bring home its truths to our hearts. We are to pray day by day that as we read His word, God will send His Spirit to reveal to us the truth that will strengthen our souls for the day's need.

    In teaching us to ask every day for what we need--both temporal and spiritual blessings--God has a purpose to accomplish for our good. He would have us realize our dependence upon His constant care, for He is seeking to draw us into communion with Himself. In this communion with Christ, through prayer and the study of the great and precious truths of His word, we shall as hungry souls be fed; as those that thirst, we shall be refreshed at the fountain of life.

    "Forgive us our sins; for we also forgive everyone that is indebted to us." Luke 11:4.

    Jesus teaches that we can receive forgiveness from God only as we forgive others. It is the love of God that draws us unto Him, and that love cannot touch our hearts without creating love for our brethren.

    After completing the Lord's Prayer, Jesus added: "If ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you: but if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses." He who is unforgiving cuts off the very channel through which alone he can receive mercy from God. We should not think that unless those who have injured us confess the wrong we are justified in withholding from them our forgiveness. It is their part, no doubt, to humble their hearts by repentance and confession; but we are to have a spirit of compassion toward those who have trespassed against us, whether or not they confess their faults. However sorely they may have wounded us, we are not to cherish our grievances and sympathize with ourselves over our injuries; but as we hope to be pardoned for our offenses against God we are to pardon all who have done evil to us.

    But forgiveness has a broader meaning than many suppose. When God gives the promise that He "will abundantly pardon," He adds, as if the meaning of that promise exceeded all that we could comprehend: "My thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways My ways, saith the Lord. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are My ways higher than your ways, and My thoughts than your thoughts." Isaiah 55:7-9. God's forgiveness is not merely a judicial act by which He sets us free from condemnation. It is not only forgiveness for sin, but reclaiming from sin. It is the outflow of redeeming love that transforms the heart. David had the true conception of forgiveness when he prayed, "Create in me a clean heart, O God; and renew a right spirit within me." Psalm 51:10. And again he says, "As far as the east is from the west, so far hath He removed our transgressions from us." Psalm 103:12.

    God in Christ gave Himself for our sins. He suffered the cruel death of the cross, bore for us the burden of guilt, "the just for the unjust," that He might reveal to us His love and draw us to Himself. And He says, "Be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving each other, even as God also in Christ forgave you." Ephesians 4:32. Let Christ, the divine Life, dwell in you and through you reveal the heaven-born love that will inspire hope in the hopeless and bring heaven's peace to the sin-stricken heart. As we come to God, this is the condition which meets us at the threshold, that, receiving mercy from Him, we yield ourselves to reveal His grace to others.

    The one thing essential for us in order that we may receive and impart the forgiving love of God is to know and believe the love that He has to us. 1 John 4:16. Satan is working by every deception he can command, in order that we may not discern that love. He will lead us to think that our mistakes and transgressions have been so grievous that the Lord will not have respect unto our prayers and will not bless and save us. In ourselves we can see nothing but weakness, nothing to recommend us to God, and Satan tells us that it is of no use; we cannot remedy our defects of character. When we try to come to God, the enemy will whisper, It is of no use for you to pray; did not you do that evil thing? Have you not sinned against God and violated your own conscience? But we may tell the enemy that "the blood of Jesus Christ His Son cleanseth us from all sin." 1 John 1:7. When we feel that we have sinned and cannot pray, it is then the time to pray. Ashamed we may be and deeply humbled, but we must pray and believe. "This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief." 1 Timothy 1:15. Forgiveness, reconciliation with God, comes to us, not as a reward for our works, it is not bestowed because of the merit of sinful men, but it is a gift unto us, having in the spotless righteousness of Christ its foundation for bestowal.

    We should not try to lessen our guilt by excusing sin. We must accept God's estimate of sin, and that is heavy indeed. Calvary alone can reveal the terrible enormity of sin. If we had to bear our own guilt, it would crush us. But the sinless One has taken our place; though undeserving, He has borne our iniquity. "If we confess our sins," God "is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness." 1 John 1:9. Glorious truth!-- just to His own law, and yet the Justifier of all that believe in Jesus. "Who is a God like unto Thee, that pardoneth iniquity, and passeth by the transgression of the remnant of His heritage? He retaineth not His anger forever, because He delighteth in mercy." Micah 7:18.

    "Bring us not into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one." Matthew 6:13

    Temptation is enticement to sin, and this does not proceed from God, but from Satan and from the evil of our own hearts. "God cannot be tempted with evil, and He Himself tempteth no man." James 1:13

    Satan seeks to bring us into temptation, that the evil of our characters may be revealed before men and angels, that he may claim us as his own. In the symbolic prophecy of Zechariah, Satan is seen standing at the right hand of the Angel of the Lord, accusing Joshua, the high priest, who is clothed in filthy garments, and resisting the work that the Angel desires to do for him. This represents the attitude of Satan toward every soul whom Christ is seeking to draw unto Himself. The enemy leads us into sin, and then he accuses us before the heavenly universe as unworthy of the love of God. But "the Lord said unto Satan, The Lord rebuke thee, O Satan; even the Lord that hath chosen Jerusalem rebuke thee: is not this a brand plucked out of the fire?" And unto Joshua He said, "Behold, I have caused thine iniquity to pass from thee, and I will clothe thee with change of raiment." Zechariah 3:1-4.
    God in His great love is seeking to develop in us the precious graces of His Spirit. He permits us to encounter obstacles, persecution, and hardships, not as a curse, but as the greatest blessing of our lives. Every temptation resisted, every trial bravely borne, gives us a new experience and advances us in the work of character building. The soul that through divine power resists temptation reveals to the world and to the heavenly universe the efficiency of the grace of Christ.

    But while we are not to be dismayed by trial, bitter though it be, we should pray that God will not permit us to be brought where we shall be drawn away by the desires of our own evil hearts. In offering the prayer that Christ has given, we surrender ourselves to the guidance of God, asking Him to lead us in safe paths. We cannot offer this prayer in sincerity, and yet decide to walk in any way of our own choosing. We shall wait for His hand to lead us; we shall listen to His voice, saying, "This is the way, walk ye in it." Isaiah 30:21.

    It is not safe for us to linger to contemplate the advantages to be reaped through yielding to Satan's suggestions. Sin means dishonor and disaster to every soul that indulges in it; but it is blinding and deceiving in its nature, and it will entice us with flattering presentations. If we venture on Satan's ground we have no assurance of protection from his power. So far as in us lies, we should close every avenue by which the tempter may find access to us.

    The prayer, "Bring us not into temptation," is itself a promise. If we commit ourselves to God we have the assurance, He "will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it." 1 Corinthians 10:13.

    The only safeguard against evil is the indwelling of Christ in the heart through faith in His righteousness. It is because selfishness exists in our hearts that temptation has power over us. But when we behold the great love of God, selfishness appears to us in its hideous and repulsive character, and we desire to have it expelled from the soul. As the Holy Spirit glorifies Christ, our hearts are softened and subdued, the temptation loses its power, and the grace of Christ transforms the character.

    Christ will never abandon the soul for whom He has died. The soul may leave Him and be overwhelmed with temptation, but Christ can never turn from one for whom He has paid the ransom of His own life. Could our spiritual vision be quickened, we should see souls bowed under oppression and burdened with grief, pressed as a cart beneath sheaves and ready to die in discouragement. We should see angels flying swiftly to aid these tempted ones, who are standing as on the brink of a precipice. The angels from heaven force back the hosts of evil that encompass these souls, and guide them to plant their feet on the sure foundation. The battles waging between the two armies are as real as those fought by the armies of this world, and on the issue of the spiritual conflict eternal destinies depend.

    To us, as to Peter, the word is spoken, "Satan hath desired to have you, that he may sift you as wheat: but I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not." Luke 22:31, 32. Thank God, we are not left alone. He who "so loved the world, that He gave His only-begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life" (John 3:16), will not desert us in the battle with the adversary of God and man. "Behold," He says, "I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you." Luke 10:19.

    Live in contact with the living Christ, and He will hold you firmly by a hand that will never let go. Know and believe the love that God has to us, and you are secure; that love is a fortress impregnable to all the delusions and assaults of Satan. "The name of the Lord is a strong tower: the righteous runneth into it, and is safe." Proverbs 18:10.


    "Thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory." Matthew 6:13.

    The last like the first sentence of the Lord's Prayer, points to our Father as above all power and authority and every name that is named. The Saviour beheld the years that stretched out before His disciples, not, as they had dreamed, lying in the sunshine of worldly prosperity and honor, but dark with the tempests of human hatred and satanic wrath. Amid national strife and ruin, the steps of the disciples would be beset with perils, and often their hearts would be oppressed by fear. They were to see Jerusalem a desolation, the temple swept away, its worship forever ended, and Israel scattered to all lands, like wrecks on a desert shore. Jesus said, "Ye shall hear of wars and rumors of wars." "Nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places. All these are the beginning of sorrows." Matthew 24:6-8. Yet Christ's followers were not to fear that their hope was lost or that God had forsaken the earth. The power and the glory belong unto Him whose great purposes would still move on unthwarted toward their consummation. In the prayer that breathes their daily wants, the disciples of Christ were directed to look above all the power and dominion of evil, unto the Lord their God, whose kingdom ruleth over all and who is their Father and everlasting Friend.

    The ruin of Jerusalem was a symbol of the final ruin that shall overwhelm the world. The prophecies that received a partial fulfillment in the overthrow of Jerusalem have a more direct application to the last days. We are now standing on the threshold of great and solemn events. A crisis is before us, such as the world has never witnessed. And sweetly to us, as to the first disciples, comes the assurance that God's kingdom ruleth over all. The program of coming events is in the hands of our Maker. The Majesty of heaven has the destiny of nations, as well as the concerns of His church, in His own charge. The divine Instructor is saying to every agent in the accomplishment of His plans, as He said to Cyrus, "I girded thee, though thou hast not known Me." Isaiah 45:5.

    In the vision of the prophet Ezekiel there was the appearance of a hand beneath the wings of the cherubim. This is to teach His servants that it is divine power which gives them success. Those whom God employs as His messengers are not to feel that His work is dependent upon them. Finite beings are not left to carry this burden of responsibility. He who slumbers not, who is continually at work for the accomplishment of His designs, will carry forward His own work. He will thwart the purposes of wicked men, and will bring to confusion the counsels of those who plot mischief against His people. He who is the King, the Lord of hosts, sitteth between the cherubim, and amid the strife and tumult of nations He guards His children still. He who ruleth in the heavens is our Saviour. He measures every trial, He watches the furnace fire that must test every soul. When the strongholds of kings shall be overthrown, when the arrows of wrath shall strike through the hearts of His enemies, His people will be safe in His hands.


    "Thine, O Lord, is the greatness, and the power, and the glory, and the victory, and the majesty: for all that is in the heaven and in the earth is Thine. . . . In Thine hand is power and might; and in Thine hand it is to make great, and to give strength unto all." 1 Chronicles 29:11, 12.
     
  13. bmerr

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    ClaudiaT,

    bmerr here. While I appreciate the fact that you actually gave an answer to the original question, may I make a suggestion?

    Shorter posts, in short.

    You're obviously well-worded, and I certainly mean no harm, but I think that many times the longer posts get little more that a "skimming over". Sometimes it's like drinking from a fire hydrant. Just too much of a good thing.

    Anyway, I'll have to go over your post closely before I reply.

    In Christ,

    bmerr
     
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