Featured The Spurgeon that some know nothing about

DHK has trouble when confronted with reality.The claim that Spurgeon is not a Calvinist shows he is without knowledge on this issue.
I would not highlight this except he insists on lecturing us when his content is consistently mistaken.

The main reason he like others struggles with this is he knows what we post is correct,yet it does not agree with our theology, so he must attack us.
He does this by seeking to dispute about words.......that is where you can subjectively insert any meaning you want to.....instead of what is obvious.

He probably has to read 15 Spurgeon sermons to find one phrase that he can try and twist it's meaning.
On the other hand...we can go to any Spurgeon sermon and clearly find all the 5 pt spoken about or implied.

You might wait a long time for an answer as you have methodically weeded.out the falsehoods and posted truth....good posting brother!

 

See next post.

 

I did not run from anything . Spurgeon always urged sinners to flee to Christ as do all Calvinist sermons......the preaching of Christ crucified is the "invitation ".
That is why there is no need for walking the aisle or raising the hand with every eye closed.

You claim Calvinists do not like this kind of preaching which is laughable. I own all of Spurgeon sermons and his study notes in hardcover.....and I have all his works on disc for also,that is why I know you are clueless about his sermons and beliefs. :laugh:

I laugh because you think you can fool people but in reality it is sad.on days when I do not have to drive long hours....I guarantee I speak to more people about the gospel and urge them to consider where they stand before God than you do in a week, yet you accuse me of lack of evangelism or presenting the cross.....that is why I laugh at your misguided attempts.

This sermon is fine....I agree with all of it as does any Christian.....you on the other hand will avoid all I quote that directly contrasts your ideas with the truth Spurgeon taught.

Spurgeon taught almost exactly what I believe and post on here everyday.:thumbs:

 

Calvinists believe it all. You do not understand that if you are posting this as you do ....

SG gets it....Rippon gets it......almost everyone gets it.

You can get it also as soon as you lay down your hateful agenda....and take time to read carefully what is offered to you.......jn 6 and heb2 go a long way to make it plain and clear..

Many who think they are not Calvinist actually are.....they are just poorly instructed or in some cases someone like you or Skandelon thinks you know better than all others...reformers, puritans....and many good men in our day......Even John MacArthur nails it solidly....you reject him also....consider your ways.
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You are more graceful then I am in regards to him.I get under his skin so he will not really listen to me that much ....we have other issues we clash on....in fact that list is growing better than my garden:laugh::laugh:

 

Even when urging sinners to repent he was quite open and honest with them.

http://www.spurgeon.org/sermons/0165.htm

 

Now, that is what I desire for Christ's Church, and what every Christian will desire. We wish Christ's church to be as large as possible. God forbid that by any of our winnowing, we should ever cast away one of the precious sons of Zion.

When we rebuke sharply, we would be anxious lest the rebuke should fall where it is not needed, and should bruise and hurt the feelings of any who God hath chosen. But on the other hand, we have no wish to see the church multiplied at the expense of its purity.


We do not wish to have a charity so large that it takes in chaff as well as wheat: we wish to be just charitable enough to use the fan thoroughly to purge God's floor, but yet charitable enough to pick up the most shrivelled ear of wheat, to preserve it for the Master's sake, who is the husbandman. I trust, in preaching this morning,

God may help me so to discern between the precious and the vile that I may say nothing uncharitable, which would cut off any of God's people from being part of his true and living and visible church; and yet at the same time I pray that I may not speak so loosely, and so without God's direction, as to embrace any in the arms of Christian affection whom the Lord hath not received in the eternal covenant of his love.


Our text suggests to us three things: first, an inquiry—Have we the Spirit?

secondly, a caution—if we have not the spirit we are sensual;


thirdly, a suspicion—there are many persons that separate themselves. Our suspicion concerning them is, that notwithstanding their extra-superfine profession, they are sensual, not having the Spirit; for our text says, "These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit."

It is as miraculous a change as any miracle of which we read in Scripture. It is supremely supernatural.

It may be mimicked, but no imitation of it can be true and real.

Men may pretend to be regenerated without the Spirit, but regenerated they cannot be.

It is a change so marvellous that the highest attempts of man can never reach it.

We may reason as long as we please, but we cannot reason ourselves into regeneration; we may meditate till our hairs are grey with study; but we cannot meditate ourselves into the new birth. That is worked in us by the sovereign will of God alone.

Have you felt him at work in your spirits, comforting you, anointing your head, making you glad, and causing you to rejoice?
There are many people that never felt this. They hope they are religious; but their religion never makes them happy. There are scores of professors who have just enough religion to make them miserable. Let them be afraid that they have any religion at all; for religion makes people happy; when it has its full sway with man it makes him glad. It may begin in agony, but it does not end there. Say, hast thou ever had thine heart leaping for joy? Hath thy lip ever warbled songs of ecstatic praise? Doth thine eye ever flash the fire of joy? If these things be not so, I fear lest thou art still without God, and without Christ; for where the Spirit comes, his fruits are, joy in the Spirit, and peace, and love, and confidence, and assurance for ever.


I am persuaded, sir, there are a great many people in the church that ought not to be there; and so I, because there is such a corrupt mixture in the church, have determined not to join anywhere at all. I do not think that the Church of Christ now a days is at all clean and pure enough to allow of my joining with it. At least, sir, I did join a church once, but I made such a deal of noise in it they were very glad when I went away.

But I am quite sure I am one of God's special elect. I don't join any church because a church is not good enough for me; I don't become a member of any denomination, because they are all wrong, every one of them." Hark ye brother, I have something to tell you, that will not please you. "These be they that separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit." I hope you enjoy the text: it certainly belongs to you, above every man in the world. "These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit." When I read this over I thought to myself, there be some who say, "Well, you are a dissenter, how do you make this agreeable with the text, 'These be they who separate themselves;' "

http://www.spurgeon.org/sermons/0167.htm

 

Christ, the name given to our Lord, is an expressive word; it means "Anointed One," and indicates that he was sent upon a divine errand, commissioned by supreme authority. The Lord Jehovah said of old, "I have laid help upon one that is mighty, I have exalted one chosen out of the people"; and again, "I have given him as a covenant to the people, a leader and commander to the people." Jesus was both set apart to this work, and qualified for it by the anointing of the Holy Ghost. He is no unauthorised saviour, no amateur deliverer, but an ambassador clothed with unbounded power from the great King, a Redeemer with full credentials from the Father. It is this ordained and appointed Saviour who has "died for the ungodly." Remember this, ye ungodly! Consider well who it was that came to lay down his life for such as you are.

 

Pedestination is used in a positive sense in regards to the salvation and sanctification of the elect.

9 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.

31 What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?

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Again....every sermon does not have to cover every possible topic.

Hey DHK....notice these portions I highlight are the same exact things I have posted in the last few years.....Identical in fact!




I do not think you understand reprobation although you keep using the word.

 

on depravity;

II. Now Secondly, we are called upon to notice the universality of this evil. What a broad assertion it is. It is not a single carnal mind, or a certain class of characters, but "the carnal mind." It is an unqualified statement, including every individual.



Whatever mind may properly be called carnal, not having been spiritualized by the power of God's Holy Ghost, is "enmity against God."


Observe then, first of all, the universality of this as to all persons. Every carnal mind in the world is at enmity against God. This does not exclude even infants at the mothers' breast. We call them innocent, and so they are of actual transgression, but as the poet says, "Within the youngest breast there lies a stone." There is in the carnal mind of an infant, enmity against God; it is not developed, but it lieth there.

Some say that children learn sin by imitation. But no; take a child away, place it under the most pious influences, let the very air it breathes be purified by piety; let it constantly drink in draughts of holiness; let it hear nothing but the voice of prayer and praise; let its ear be always kept in tune by notes of sacred song; and that child, notwithstanding, may still become one of the grossest of transgressors; and though placed apparently on the very road to heaven, it shall, if not directed by divine grace, march downwards to the pit. Oh! how true it is that some who have had the best of parents, have been the worst of sons; that many who have been trained up under the most holy auspices, in the midst of the most favorable scenes for piety, have nevertheless, become loose and wanton! So it is not by imitation, but it is by nature, that the child is evil.


We know that young lions, when tamed and domesticated, still will have the wild nature of their fellows of the forest, and were liberty given them, would prey as fiercely as others. So with the child; you may bind him with the green withes of education, you may do what you will with him, since you cannot change his heart, that carnal mind shall still be at enmity against God; and notwithstanding intellect, talent, and all you may give to boot, i


http://www.spurgeon.org/sermons/0020.htm


There be others of acute intellect, who, searching into mysteries of science, discover things that have been hidden from the creation of the world; men of keen research, and mighty erudition; and yet of each of these—poet, philosopher, metaphysician, and great discoverer—it shall be said, "The carnal mind is enmity against God." Ye may train him up, ye may make his intellect almost angelic, ye may strengthen his soul until he shall take what are riddles to us, and unravel them with his fingers in a moment; ye may make him so mighty, that he can grasp the iron secrets of the eternal hills and grind them to atoms in his fist; ye may give him an eye so keen, that he can penetrate the arcana of rocks and mountains; ye may add a soul so potent, that he may slay the giant Sphinx, that had for ages troubled the mightiest men of learning; yet, when ye have done all, his mind shall be a depraved one, and his carnal heart shall still be in opposition to God. Yea, more, ye shall bring him to the house of prayer;

ye shall make him sit constantly under the clearest preaching of the word, where he shall hear the doctrines of grace in all their purity, attended by a holy unction; but if that holy unction does not rest upon him, all shall be vain; he shall still come most regularly, but, like the pious door of the chapel, that turneth in and out, he shall still be the same; having an outside superficial religion, and his carnal mind shall still be at enmity against God.


Now, this is not my assertion, it is the declaration of God's word, and you must leave it if you do not believe it; but quarrel not with me, it is my Master's message; and it is true of every one of you—men, women, and children, and myself too—that if we have not been regenerated and converted, if we have not experienced a change of heart, our carnal mind is still at enmity against God.

 

Because I believe exactly as Spurgeon does...why should I comment on what i agree with.

here on BB if you notice I mostly do not comment where I agree with the person or the link....I post against the error:wavey::wavey:


You said Spurgeon believed different than me, but that was a falsehood...this thread shows that to everyone except you.